iceshj Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I have a problem that doesnt seem to be covered by any of the answers on here. My indicators are fine! Hazard lights are fine with ignition on. Ignition off no hazards! I have fitted new switch and new flasher but all remains the same. I have check permanent supply and all good. I have even run a line to the switched supply (green) and it then works. Trouble is, everything else works too when it shouldn't as the ignition is off! My problem is that I have re-built this car from the ground up and never had an issue until the last MOT when they tested them properly. Did this problem exist when I had the first post rebuild MOT done??? did it exist before the rebuild??? I am at a loss for now. Any other help would be great. If there is an friendly auto electrician in the new forest area who would like to pop in, that would be great too cheers Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 With the ignition off, hazard switch on, and no additional wires added, do you have 12v at the flasher relay base? Do you have 12v on the same wire at the switch? Should be the light green wire in both cases. I wonder if the flasher relay supply isn't wired correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C18RCH Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Finnaly here is that cicuit diagram that I drew. Would have posted it sooner but usually only on here at work and my work firewall doesn't let me post pictures or even use the smileys for some reason Hope it helps I would suggest there is a fault on the permenant live. If everything works when you run a new line to this are you sure you are not attaching it to the Ignition live on the haz switch by mistake? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td5defender Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Hi Everyone! I am new to the forum and also relatively new to the joys of Defender ownership… Being very inexperienced yet keen with marginal mechanical knowledge (great combination - just be pleased I am not working on your lr!) I have a number of repairs on the go. Oh yes you can read from that it is in many pieces and now not even close to being back on the road! Anyway this is a great thread (thank you) but have got as far as I can and now I am stumped. I have done the tests outlined at the start of the thread and all successful when I use the permanent supply. However when I try to repeat the tests using 'Light switch supply' instead of 'permanent supply' with the ignition switch on second click I get nothing. The problem I am trying to resolve is my speed gauge, fuel gauge and temperature gauge all read zero (back lights and odometer still receiving power) and my indicators will not work with the ignition on. Hazards work fine both with ignition off and on. Keen to know what I should try next? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitower Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hi Everyone! I am new to the forum and also relatively new to the joys of Defender ownership… Being very inexperienced yet keen with marginal mechanical knowledge (great combination - just be pleased I am not working on your lr!) I have a number of repairs on the go. Oh yes you can read from that it is in many pieces and now not even close to being back on the road! Anyway this is a great thread (thank you) but have got as far as I can and now I am stumped. I have done the tests outlined at the start of the thread and all successful when I use the permanent supply. However when I try to repeat the tests using 'Light switch supply' instead of 'permanent supply' with the ignition switch on second click I get nothing. The problem I am trying to resolve is my speed gauge, fuel gauge and temperature gauge all read zero (back lights and odometer still receiving power) and my indicators will not work with the ignition on. Hazards work fine both with ignition off and on. Keen to know what I should try next? Thank you! Did you check the fuses?I think the problem is in one of the fuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer_5254_mercer Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Hi wondered of anyone can help!?? When I link perm 12v (purple) or light switch supply with ign on to either right or left indicators they light. The problem comes when I link perm 12v or light switch 12v with ign on again to supply to flasher I get nothing of the stalk. Landymanluke suggests the flashers should then work as normal?? I have fitted a new horn/indicator/flash switch not 3 months ago!!? Regards Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 If your indicators and hazards don't work, I'd suggest the the flasher relay is faulty. What does and doesn't work at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer_5254_mercer Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Niether work at the moment.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 In that case, i would suspect the flasher relay itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer_5254_mercer Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Thanks landymanluke have ordered a new flasher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer_5254_mercer Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Hi. Have fitted new flasher still no idicators what's next to try!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 only other parts are the light units & the left hand column stalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer_5254_mercer Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Hi thanks. Light units work as when I give them 12v they light. If the stalk was faulty why do I have no hazards either??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 have you replaced the hazard switch itself ? if not either fit a brand new switch or borrow a known good one for testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer_5254_mercer Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 No was advised wasn't the switch. Will however order a new one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 The tests on this thread will allow you to determine if the hazard switch is the issue or not. If you add the links as described, you can test both hazard and indicator functionality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR400 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I have gone through the process as described in this great link and used a 5 Amp fuse as the test jumper, this blew when I tried each side on the indicators , what should I check next, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Were you connecting 12v between a supply and each indicator? If so, you probably have a short in your indicator wiring. First thing I'd do is remove the lenses from the indicator bulb units, and remove the units from the wings, and see if you've still got an earth fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomaco1 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Lights are driving me crazy, was told it was probably hazard related, I'm going to try and test the switch today But was wondering if anyone had any other ideas? All lights blink with the hazards Running an directional in frt Brake and directions in rear. When I pull the hella relay, no hazards but Turn lights on: Front= everything lights except left directional Rear = just right brake and directional Brake lights work, but directional dash light comes on when ever I push the brake pedal. Relay is grounded, all lights are grounded Bout to blow up truck. And my directional dash light goes on when I put the headlights on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 What you describe points to a typical earth problem. What are the bulb holders grounded to? Have you tried running a new earth cable from the lamp holder back to the battery, just for testing purposes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomaco1 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I've got power going to the green/white right direction indicator when ever the lights are on? Even if I remove the hazard switch the g/w is still powered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 Is that still the case with all bulbs removed? All four corners - sideslights/brakes and indicators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomaco1 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 If it still happens with all the bulbs out, what does that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 That its less likely to be an earth fault. Well, less likely to be an earth fault at a lamp holder. Could be elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixfeetofmud Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I have a different situation and I hope someone can help . I replaced a faulty hazard switch . Everything works again but now I can't turn the ignition off . I can take the key right out and the truck stays running . Untill I disconnect the new switch . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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