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Removing front brake caliper - Bolts very stuck


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Given you're saying they're stuck, I'm guessing the socket Jim mentions isn't working? Sadly because of where they are you can't get a grinder to them so I've had success with the 'bash a smaller socket on' method, ahead of taking the whole hub or swivel off to put it in the vice and drill it out.

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To be quite honest, we never have trouble undoing the bolts because they are never rusted on up here. Possibly down at the coast they get rusty.

I assume you are at least going to change the caliper seals, so a bit of heat might make it easier. No, I take that back as I think there are o-rings between the two halves of the caliper which might be damaged. As with a lot of things, LR say you should not split the caliper, but I see no reason why you can't if you are careful and keep everything clean. I think forumeers have done it.

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I have a fairly new set of Stahlwille tools, both sockets and spanners. There's no slipping whatsoever, there just isn't any movement at all.

A lot of oil to soften the dirt seems worth a try, but isn't it mainly stuck because it gets to endure so much force while braking?

Given you're saying they're stuck, I'm guessing the socket Jim mentions isn't working? Sadly because of where they are you can't get a grinder to them so I've had success with the 'bash a smaller socket on' method, ahead of taking the whole hub or swivel off to put it in the vice and drill it out.
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I have a fairly new set of Stahlwille tools, both sockets and spanners. There's no slipping whatsoever, there just isn't any movement at all.

A lot of oil to soften the dirt seems worth a try, but isn't it mainly stuck because it gets to endure so much force while braking?

I think the clue here is the fact its not slipping. The answer is to pull harder! The bolts are normally held in by a spot of threadlock which you will need to overcome.Make sure you get a straight pull on it though with a good quality bit of kit as once rounded you are on your own. I would put as much effort into keeping the socket square on as i would in getting a longer leverage.Best of luck.

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get a big breaker bar on it and a second person to pull/push the socket to keep it square on the nut

Also turn the wheel to full lock so you can get good access to the bolt and a straight pull on the breaker bar.

Some bolts are pigs, I sheared the end off my breaker bar the other day on a wheel bolt, I had the whole Land Rover bouncing on the tranny break to undo the blighter (on breaker bar number 2), using the momentum of the car rolling forwards against me pulling on the bar.

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depending on how you are supporting the rest of the vehicle, you can always put a trolley jack under the breaker bar handle and then gently raise the jack. obviously keep an eye on the vehicle and make sure its not being lifted by the caliper bolt!

I expect the downward pressure of the vehicle and the upwarrd pressure of the jack will crack the bolt - its how i did the wheelnuts on my disco!

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Do be 100% sure you are pulling in the right direction! We have all made that error when working round the back of a component.

It is not best practice, and may void the tools warranty if they found out, but a bit of tube to extend the handle of the breaker bar can help hugely. As stated, decent tools, squarely on the bolt head and you will succeed.

Best of luck

Chris

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Just to be sure; I assume the bolts are normal thread i.e. they tighten clockwise. The workshop manual doesn't mention it to be otherwise, but that is no guarantee.

Do be 100% sure you are pulling in the right direction! We have all made that error when working round the back of a component.

It is not best practice, and may void the tools warranty if they found out, but a bit of tube to extend the handle of the breaker bar can help hugely. As stated, decent tools, squarely on the bolt head and you will succeed.

Best of luck

Chris

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If you are thinking you are going to muller it, give the local dealer a phone call, since they may not have the bolts on the shelf, you may want to lay in some spares just in case if you need the motor on the road.

S

good point - When I found my caliper had only one bolt holding it on :o bearmach nor the local stealer had them in stock.

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