Warthog Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Had some spare time and thought i would have a go at the simple "Dimple Die" Very efective way to increase the strength of small guage plate. Plus it looks pretty good aswell. Not seen to much use of them this side of the pond, but may just have to find an excuse to now An example of what happens if you really, really like the effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 When you say "small guage plate" what sort of guages are you thinking of? The plate in pictures 1 & 3 looks about 10mm thick, but the two piece die seems complete in itself. The final plate with 2 large and 4 small holes looks about 16G. Have you used the 2 piece die to form the thick plate, then the formed thick plate and the male half of the die to form the thin plate? Or does the 2 piece die also punch out the hole? As you can judge, a beginners view of the world!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warthog Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 When you say "small guage plate" what sort of guages are you thinking of? The plate in pictures 1 & 3 looks about 10mm thick, but the two piece die seems complete in itself. The final plate with 2 large and 4 small holes looks about 16G. Have you used the 2 piece die to form the thick plate, then the formed thick plate and the male half of the die to form the thin plate? Or does the 2 piece die also punch out the hole? As you can judge, a beginners view of the world!! The Plate in the piccies were of 3mm and 4mm plate (this is light guage to me, where i work). 3mm with the 1 3/4 Holes and 1" (Final Plate) Any guage of plate could be used really. The Die is in 2 halfs the Pin locates the Upper and Lower centrally. When pressed the pin moves through the die. Image 2 shows the Lower die on the left. The Hole is pre-drilled or a Holesaw can be used and then the Die forms the "Dimple" Hope that helps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Yep, that's fine, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 It's an effect I really like the look of. Makes holes in things look very intentional! Your's looks brilliant! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warthog Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 Makes holes in things look very intentional!Si Yer right there, but i sense you may question thier actual effect? "Makes holes look very intentional" Sort of like: "Bling with a purpose" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco tony Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 As I recall from my apprenticeship XX years ago, swaging a hole in this manner actually strengthens the plate to a plate size equal to the total width at the swage. I'ts used extensively in aircraft stiffeners, (stringers). Important to polish hole before the swage, less likely to encounter stress cracks. Nice job of the press tool in a bit of spare time though! Would make a really good looking bumper and reduce the weight - cool!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 warthog, out of interest what metal did you make the dies out of? and how much pressure (or how big was the press) was need to do that 4mm plate ? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1G UP Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Had some spare time and thought i would have a go at the simple "Dimple dies" That truck your? quality although putting holes back in the boot floor is alittle silly unless your using it to move sheep etc,one leg down each hole and they'll be going no where! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Before we all get too carried away, lets not confuse "strengthen" with "stiffen" shall we? The swage is making more efficient use of the material around the hole thus going some way to replacing the material taken out and not leaving you with a floppy cheese grater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warthog Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 Die Material used EN24T- A tough material that has a tendancy to work hardened upon use. Material choice was what was in the scrap bin. Hardened and ground would be the way to go. But not needed IMHO....... I used a 20tonne Press to "Swage" the holes in 4mm plate easily. I would reckon using a fly press wouldnt be ideal? Not my truck, just an example of someone getting a little over excited with the dies Stiffness as opposed to Strengthen. I stand corrected but now educated Mr Bishbosh strengthen; To make strong or increase the strength of. stiffen; To make or become stiff or stiffer. stiffness; Synonyms: stiff, rigid, inflexible, inelastic. These adjectives describe what is very firm and does not easily bend or give way. Stiff, the least specific, refers to what can be flexed only with difficulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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