JimAttrill Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I know the bolt spacings are the same, but are the injector positions the same? Has anyone done this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Yes, it is done & fits, 200Tdi heads are no longer available new & IIRC Turners use 300Tdi heads on remanufactured 200Tdi engines if the original head is damaged beyond repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 90 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 This ones been done to death, A quick search will bring up all the info you could ever need. http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=34682&hl= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECCANO Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 i have, although i have yet to run it. The injectors are smaller and at a differnt angle so you will need these and the pipes to connect it to a 200. you will also need all the rocker assembley/ rocker cover, and i think the valves are a differnt size slightly( not sure as i jsut fitted new). The push rods are the same. think thats about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridaT Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Turners use 300Tdi heads on remanufactured 200Tdi engines Western, that is news to us. Turner Engineering only fit 200TDI heads on 200TDI engines. FridaT www.turner-engineering.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Western, that is news to us. Turner Engineering only fit 200TDI heads on 200TDI engines. FridaT www.turner-engineering.co.uk Oh apologies, I thought that due to 200Tdi heads being no longer available that you had found this would work. seems I was wrong. But is it possible, ?? sure I've heard of it else where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECCANO Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Oh apologies, I thought that due to 200Tdi heads being no longer available that you had found this would work.seems I was wrong. But is it possible, ?? sure I've heard of it else where. Apparently land rover did it/ still do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridaT Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Apparently land rover did it/ still do it. I am not aware LR ever did and in any case LR have not had stock of this engine type for some time. However, yes it can be done as we have had a 200TDI engine exchanged some years ago with a 300TDI head. Whether it ran properly I don't know. FridaT www.turner-engineering.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECCANO Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I sure hope it does!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I sure hope it does!!! Update on this? Would it use the 200TDI manifolds or need the 300TDI ones? (thinking 2.8 turbo here...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I seem to have a 300 head on my 200 engine - only found out when I bought new manifold gaskets. Which didn't fit Bought the engine like it and been using it for over two years with no probs at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlins Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I have just done this..all going well to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurbie Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just now, Ohlins said: I have just done this..all going well to date. what did you need to change on the engine ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlins Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) Hi I'm just about to work on a photo 'How to' this afternoon. Edited April 2, 2023 by Ohlins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlins Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) Edited April 2, 2023 by Ohlins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaman Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I am now finding myself to be in this position where my head gasket let go between the combustion chamber and the water way on No3 cylinder. After getting it towed home and removed the bits to fix it, unfortunately I've found the head has a crack between the valves on No3. My vehicle is a 200tdi Defender with all the normal Defender manifolds, front covers, pipes, etc. I'd like to know/clarify with those of you who've attempted/done the swap with a 300tdi cylinder head. From what I can gather, one needs: Injectors, rocker shaft assembly, rocker cover and thermostat output. The fuel hard lines are not informative enough to know if the the ones that fit a Discovery will fit a Defender, yes bending is required, but will they fit? The other thing I can't fully work out, yes the original 200tdi pistons will not be correct for 100% fuel efficiency as the combustion position is off. Will it work enough to be usable for a while? If the pistons require replacing for a long term solution (my bores do actually need a honing, during strip down cleaning) what's the correct combination of pistons/con-rods that will fit in the block? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 There's a fair number of engine specialists who just weld the crack up There's a fair few on EbayUK. Paddocks have a brand spanking new one and Simmonites are selling reconditioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaman Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 15 minutes ago, Nonimouse said: There's a fair number of engine specialists who just weld the crack up There's a fair few on EbayUK. Paddocks have a brand spanking new one and Simmonites are selling reconditioned One person I contacted in UK, said "Sorry I haven't got the head you need, and to be honest the last one I did was a complete pain and said I would never do one again." Paddocks shows it as, add to Wish List, I'm guessing it's not readily available. Unfortunately I didn't say I was outside of UK, my bad. I've looked at what's available, unfortunately the current pictures don't tell the whole picture. I've sent an email with pictures to a local engine repair place, here in Holland, hopefully they can fix the problem. My previous post still stands for myself and others who may be faced with a similar problem in the near future. Is there a viable option that's suitable to keep the vehicle on the road. Or will old age finally put those cars in the grave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I run a 200Tdi. I have one spare engine. When it's gone, I'll either fit a V8 (which I also have) or fit an alternative diesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Spare engine, and a spare head, or two? And a 2286 petrol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurbie Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 same here , rebuilt engine in the Eurover project , spare engine to be rebuilt , and a extra spare head ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 15 hours ago, Nonimouse said: I run a 200Tdi. I have one spare engine. When it's gone, I'll either fit a V8 (which I also have) or fit an alternative diesel Same, plus a couple of good spare heads. Tbh - I too one off with cracks between the valves and think they were incidental findings when the HG went so would be tempted to put that head back on if I was desparate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Cracks between valves are common and can be run like that, it's not great but it won't cause any noticeable problems. Cracks between cylinders, oil/water ways or like one of mine in the inlet tract will be a problem. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaman Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 On 2/26/2024 at 7:46 PM, Nonimouse said: There's a fair number of engine specialists who just weld the crack up There's a fair few on EbayUK. Paddocks have a brand spanking new one and Simmonites are selling reconditioned Update on Paddocks, just got an email back after asking if what their website is showing is available or not, their answer was " RTC6896 is not live on our website as we no longer sell them. I believe that Google may have given you an old link to a part that we used to sell. Unfortunately this cylinder head is obsolete and therefore no longer manufactured by Land Rover." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaman Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) Update, I sent some pictures via email to Turner Engineering and asked the question if my problem with the cracks are terminal or not, the reply was uplifting to say the least. This is what the bossman himself said "Good to see in focus decent close up pictures for a change. Minor cracking of this nature you can disregard as casting is so thick in these areas that this will not affect fit, function or purpose. The micro cracks may have been there for years. It will cause more problems trying to rectify (weld) than simply leaving it alone." Edited February 28 by alfaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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