Frogland Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I've a 300tdi 98 110 and it gets quite warm where i live,which gearbox oil should i use MTF 94 or ATF there seems to be a lot of conflicting views.cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam300Tdi90 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Ashcroft Transmissions suggest using MTF 94. I have just bought 5litres of MTF94 genuine Land rover oil for ~£25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 MTF94 for an R380. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picpoki Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 What about for LT77? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommac Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 i would suggest mtf94 for the r380 box- once i changed to this in mine it made a huge difference. I believe it is essentially 10w40 oil- not hugely expensive to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 MTF 94 for R380 and ATF for LT77, although many reccomend MTF 94 for the LT77 as well from what i can make out. I have tried both MTF94 and ATF in my LT77 and found no difference between the two in that box, so stuck with ATF as it is cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogland Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 well i'm going to top up with ATF for the time being as i haven't got the 45 euros to buy any MTF at the moment. Gearchanging is ok a little grating moving up into third,but then again this is my first landrover in fact it's the first landrover i've ever driven so i can't really compare.If MTF is essentially 10w40 why can't I just put that in ,is there anyone doing that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 don't use engine oil 10w40 the gearbox has an internal oil pump & isn't made to handle thicker fluids & the gearbox bearings won't like the additives in engine oil. ATF is fine if you can't get any MTF94. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 If MTF94 was 10W40, it would be called 10W40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Actually it would be a 0W30. The MTF fluids are a better choice as they use friction modifier to aid synchronizer performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picpoki Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 So ATF would do, but MTF94 is better. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 LT77 should be Dextron 3, R380 should be MTF94 Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogland Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 So just to get a bit of closure on this topic can someone give me the exact viscosity of MTF 94 -i mean what does it say on the bottle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 ' Testing requirement RES.57.02.593 - "Gearbox oil test" "Texaco MTF94 is developed for higher torque & power applications, enhanced protection of gears & bearings, and significant performance improvements at extreme temperatures. SAFETY Minimise contact with used oil. Wash skin thoroughly after contact. Please dispose of your used oil safely. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 It probably doesnt provide a viscosity on the bottle. Some manufacturers that use MTF allow top-ups to be done with engine oil, but i wouldnt imagine it would be wise to fill the box with it from empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 http://members.shaw.ca/jbarge/MTF.htm http://www.kewengineering.co.uk/Auto_oils/ROVER%20MTF.pdf ROVER MTF 94 is recommended for use in manual transmissions of all Landrovervehicles. Pour Point, Deg C ISO 3016 -45 Visc, Kinematic, 40Deg C, mm2/s ISO 3104 53 Visc, Kinematic, 100Deg C, mm2/s ISO 3104 10.5 Visc, Brookfield, -20Deg C, mPa.s ASTM D2983 2100 Visc, Brookfield, -30Deg C, mPa.s ASTM D2983 9000 Visc, Brookfield, -40Deg C, mPa.s ASTM D2983 60000 Viscosity Index ISO 2909 191 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 ROVER MTF 94 is recommended for use in manual transmissions of all Landrovervehicles. John correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not recommended for series transmissions, right? Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 EP80/90 in the transfer and gearboxes in series vehicles. I've never heard of anyone putting a thinner oil in them. I would imagine it would be quite noisy - they were designed for thicker oil. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 John correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not recommended for series transmissions, right? Todd. Hi Todd. Series? What is that? I was just quoting what it said.... Yes, all vehicles built while dinasoars roamed the earth use regular gear oil in their gearboxes. Back to the question of the day.... Whether or not a good MTF will make your LT77 last longer or not? Who knows. It certainly won't be worse and the probability is that it will help. Lube cost is nothing compared to the cost of a new gearbox. One thing to keep in mind is that not all LT77 boxes are created equal. The layshaft bearings on the early boxes were specified by some engineer with a bad sense of humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantd5 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 If MTF94 was 10W40, it would be called 10W40 hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Because some pedant in the office has just bought it up, MTF94 may well be 10W40 viscosity but it is not the same thing as 10W40 engine oil. Oh and my Series takes MT94 in its gearbox, but that's 'cos it's an R380 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingrat Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 My 2penneth would be to use the Difflock oil for the R380. I am very happy with the results, its improved my gearbox no end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSD Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Because some pedant in the office has just bought it up, MTF94 may well be 10W40 viscosity but it is not the same thing as 10W40 engine oil. Picky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Because some pedant in the office has just bought it up, MTF94 may well be 10W40 viscosity... As stated earlier, it is a 0W30 viscosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 So in Peru, surprisingly you can't get MTF94....so resurrecting a really old thread....the last lot I got in Namibia is spent by about 3000miles. Should I use Dextron 3 or 2 or is there some other VERY common gearbox oil i could try. I have Dextron 2 in my spares box and theres a million lube places just round the corner. If they have Dextron 3 is that prefered. I could go for Honda MTF94 as they might have that also. So 2 or 3 or Honda.....or something else. Thanks as always. Neill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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