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muddydisco
Come on there seems to be alot of welding talk on here show us you welding and give us your tips
dollythelw
QUOTE (muddydisco @ Mar 16 2007, 04:46 PM) *
Come on there seems to be alot of welding talk on here show us you welding and give us your tips


we only talk - we're e builders cool.gif

















or this one?






or this one?









bored now lol - too much cut and pasting smile.gif
Les Henson
This could be very long and big headed thread. Ignore that tat up there^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is REAL fabrication.















There's something so special about fabricating - you could be innovating, the first, doing something that others will admire and copy. Of course - you could be also making a total a*se of yourself.



Les.
muddydisco
This is what people want to see for inspiration and idea,s.
How long did it take you too complete the project
Hybrid_From_Hell
"Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

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Calling Mr Warne" hysterical.gif

Nige
LS26
QUOTE (Les Henson @ Mar 16 2007, 06:22 PM) *
There's something so special about fabricating - you could be innovating, the first, doing something that others will admire and copy. Of course - you could be also making a total a*se of yourself.
Les.


the latter in my case... BUT... I have a great time doing it :-)
Astro_Al
Will is currently away from his PC, but he asked me to show you guys some of his latest work.

I think this particular one is from a single-phase pigeon, medium squeeze. He said he was getting a bit too much spatter, and it may need a new nozzle (or the whole liner replacing). Dunno though - looks like some of his best work to me...?

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Orgasmic Farmer
Almost too embarressed to show my efforts in such esteemed company! Will get my camera out and post later!
dollythelw
ahh Les - the therapy of gas welding smile.gif I tip my hat to you sir

Orgasmic - embarrassed? nah whatever level people work to they are out there doing it and that deserves respect smile.gif


Al - I almost followed through laugh.gif Mr Brown Turtle almost came out and licked my pants, still got tears in my eyes laugh.gif laugh.gif
Les Henson
@ Astro Al hysterical.gif

You owe me a new keyboard laugh.gif


Les.
simonr
OK, you can't see much welding - but there is a cut down sump (the missing bit would otherwise be above the disk & stop you getting to the bolts that suspend the diff) plus the frame to support the diff & wishbones.

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This was the first trial fit of the diff, disks & calipers, done this afternoon. Now I can set about making a bit of bracing for the frame plus the wishbones, uprights, steering arms.........
MECCANO
Not quite on the same level... but hey maybe you guys can give some tips



white90
Tip for you:
I'd put some nuts on those bolts smile.gif
88 Special
Built a bulkhead for my SIII a couple years ago. I used 1.5 mm galvanived and a stick welder, so there are some extra drain holes!






white90




1st things I did on the 90
letter boxed rear x member and opened fllor for rear winch install



Roof modded with use of various trees
Mark
Can't find many pictures, but this got plenty of use this weekend on the front of Orange's Rangie:



Marginally less complicated would be this on one end of my steering damper:



and this on the other:



There are plenty of pictures on my inner wing replacement thread, although none of it is exactly pretty..



and just to show that welding isn't the only answer, here's my winch drum support that I machined from Ally...


Paul Woodward
My tip; practice, practice and more practice!



















Orgasmic Farmer
Well heres a few of my front bumper being knocked up!

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Its got to come off now though to have a winch tray fitted!
Bull Bar Cowboy
A Few snippets of the last year at time when I had the camera handy..................... rolleyes.gif
























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Ian
Lewis
Paul Woodward - I like your truck a lot, very subtle smile.gif
FridgeFreezer
Last thing I took any photos of was fixing up the lodger's pile of crap motorbike: Attack of the welding pigeons
biasbilt
How to make simple job far more complicated than it needs to be.....

Having moved the servo and master forward in the racer, I needed to extend the push rod from the pedal to the servo. Previously, the rod had been pushed into a bit of tube with the appropriate bracket on the end and welded in place. The new length meant that the 2 pieces no longer "slipped up each other" in the way meant, so needed extending. Rather than just sticking an extra bit of tube on the end and being done with it, I decided to do the job properly, even no-one will even be able to see it.
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Take a peice of solid bar, and turn down one end, so that it is a snug fit inside the tube. Then drill out the other end so the orignal rod will once again "slip up" it. Check the measurements, weld it up and hey presto, job done. Far more complicated than just bodging it, but when you've got access to the right gear, it's just very satisfying to use it and do the job properly. I was even able to put a chamfer on both parts to eunsure that the weld would have good penetration. Overkill, hell yes, but I know it's in there!
Outrage
Hi all,

just adding a few, not in the same league of some on ere, but i was happy with it...

Rebuild lightweight lower bulkhead:



Test fitted:



And again (with re fabricated radiator support):



In Paint with new dash console:



New LTWT rear tub (can't claim credit for the long bends but the smaller panels were done by myself):



Girlfriend (Ex.) having a quick spin:



Cheers,

Lee
Les Henson
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not in the same league of some on ere


Dunno wht you felt you had to say that - it's looks bluddy perfect to me!
Certainly better than I could do at least.


Les.
Paul Woodward
Yes looks like a top job to me too!! I like the switches, fuses and instruments.
Outrage
QUOTE (Paul Woodward @ Apr 17 2007, 07:48 PM) *
Yes looks like a top job to me too!! I like the switches, fuses and instruments.


Hi Paul/Les, thanks for the kind words.

There are one or two deformations on the bulkhead where the steel's been warped by the heat, caused by my inexperience in welding which I wasn't too happy with and more than a few holes drilled in it where they shouldn't have been. No matter how hard I try being precise with my measurements is something I just can't seem to get right and I've dropped a few monumental cock ups along the way with the tub through measuring.

My tips are if you are going to do major work on your Landie:

Have a water tight garage, thats got a level floor and electricity (and closer than 10 miles to your home)

Spend more than you can afford on a decent mig-welder rather than swearing and shouting at the hobby one you bought from B&Q when it constantly fails to feed the wire! (done more repairs on it than to the Landie!)
Measure twice, cut (or drill) once!
Tell your girlfriend / wife that it will take 4 years + when you start (not a year to change the chassis!)
Don't get despondent with the project - take a few weeks off from time to time and come back afresh.

Ta,

Lee
Les Henson
Looks like the dodgy 'Yoof' in the picture has 'tagged the back wall of your shed! biggrin.gif


Les.
Outrage
QUOTE (Les Henson @ Apr 18 2007, 01:10 PM) *
Looks like the dodgy 'Yoof' in the picture has 'tagged the back wall of your shed! biggrin.gif
Les.


Yeh, could have done with a few more graffiti types on the project - the paintwork would av bin more wikkid - init!

kikkin it 2 ya! biggrin.gif

Lee
MickMac
Does this count as welding and fabrication
will_warne
QUOTE (MickMac @ Apr 23 2007, 11:09 PM) *
Does this count as welding and fabrication


I made one of those a few years ago - Design Technology major A-level project! Double wishbone front end and swing arm rear end. Loads of fun but I spent an obscene amount of time making it.
V8RRC
QUOTE (will_warne @ Apr 24 2007, 10:57 AM) *
Loads of fun but I spent an obscene amount of time making it.


Nothings changed then Will ph34r.gif
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MickMac
Made for a cartie race at my son's primary school, 1/4 elliptical leaf spring suspension at the back though, sort of.

See you at the TFC Will
Brasco
does it happen to you that after welding with co2 or mig welder for a couple of hours you get the feeling of having been out for a sun tan for a couple of days.. even my eyes... i use the welding mask but at the end of the day they look as if i had been on tequila all day long ... i suppose you use some special mask right ? not the arc welding one. dry.gif

sometimes at night i even realise what many prophets meant in their writings when they said that they were in the dark and saw the light....cause you get to see all kind of flashes even with closed eyes...and usually it occurs when you go to sleep.. but why... any doctor around... i guess no right.. those drive X5's or Tuaregs rolleyes.gif
Orgasmic Farmer
ooo while we are on the subject of karts we have made, its a good time to post my downhill racing machine. Always good for a giggle although was always the slowest on the course. Best bit was the commentator trying to read out the name of my ride on the tannoy laugh.gif laugh.gif


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LandyManLuke
Drifting further O/T, this was knocked up for a mate's 21st. It's no masterpiece but it fed 25 hungry students on Saturday.

Les Henson
Brasco - an arc welding visor should be ok for MIG welding - the light is intense UV for both types of welding. If you are getting dazzled or your eyes itch as if there's grit in them, then you must chuck the visor away, as it's not doing what it's designed to do and you could end up with permanent eye damage. Automatic welding face masks are relatively cheap nowadays.


Les
Diesel 90
Welding visors have a shade rating. You have to pick the right shade depending to welding current and mode as well as how close your eyes are from the work. When welding, you should be able to see the molten metal and weld forming. This should not be a white flash where you can't comfortably see detail. I keep three different shades on hand for different situations.

Richard
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