Anorak_Stan
Apr 1 2008, 07:18 PM
Could anybody recomend a good supplier / fitter for a "custom" Roll Cage to fit a 90 Truck Cab ?
I'm after someone preferably in the sound of England (Will travel for Right Job)
I want the Roll Cage to be pretty flush to Roof / A-Pillers
Any Ideas ?
Thanks
Lyndon C
landmannnn
Apr 1 2008, 07:26 PM
This guy has done some first rate work
http://www.exactfabrication.co.uk/Based Northants, used to post on here til he started his own business up and probably got too busy.
Young bobtail Rhys
Apr 1 2008, 07:30 PM
RBR Delevopments will uild you a cage to your spec and for a pretty good price.
white90
Apr 1 2008, 07:36 PM
North Offroad
ooooppp north but worth the travel
QUOTE (white90 @ Apr 1 2008, 08:36 PM)

North Offroad
ooooppp north but worth the travel
2nd, 3rd, 4th for North Offroad....they make excellent cages.
There are very few good places in the country, and even less in the south, and i could (but wont) mention several people who i wouldnt employ to make them too!!
North Off Road get my vote.
it actually worked out cheaper to drive up there, train back and opposite to collect it than to get one locally to me to the spec i wanted (included fitting)
WALFY
Apr 2 2008, 12:23 PM
I looked at cages a while back. Before I spent out at Ashcrofts. For me QT came out on top. I've seen their cage on a challenge truck and they are a friendly bunch. North Offroad were a lot dearer plus the fact of 2 return jouneys to get it done made way to expensive to do. So for me it'll be a trip to QT.
NOR dearer - not heard that for a while, my 50mm CDS cage was £650 fitted by Shaun, i couldnt get one for that down eeeeer
Hybrid_From_Hell
Apr 2 2008, 12:33 PM
I think whitbread cages are good value for money reasonably well made
and had these been about when Jon White and I did ours ourselves we would have seriously considered them without doubt worth a lookie
Nige
daveturnbull
Apr 2 2008, 04:36 PM
Pete at Stunning Services (see link in my sig) has been making cages for racers for years - his work has saved Jules' ass on many an occasion.
Only in Bournemouth so not too far from you.
WALFY
Apr 2 2008, 05:13 PM
QUOTE (JST @ Apr 2 2008, 01:33 PM)

NOR dearer - not heard that for a while, my 50mm CDS cage was £650 fitted by Shaun, i couldnt get one for that down eeeeer
James
When I called it was 600 for cage +fitting or pick up. Didn't do delivery. So my reasoning was
For fitting
700 for cage
100ish to fit. @ 4hrs 25 quid/hr (?)
80quid fuel to get 90 there and back
50quid to get second car there and back.
For collection
700 for cage
100+ for fuel
trailler hire 50 (for weekend)
I can get the cage cheaper at QT. Collection is closer. So for me it was a no brainer.
Anorak_Stan
Apr 2 2008, 08:37 PM
Thanks for all help and suggestions.
So far I have managed to speak to 2 of your suggestions:
1) North4x4 - Shaun sounds a helpful and knowledgeable guy and My "Design" is going to cost appx £860 + VAT Fitted
2) Whitbread4x4 - Malcolm also sounds Helpful etc and My "Design" is going to cost appx £750 All In Fitted
Quite a big difference so I need to get a couple more quotes and then look @ what the Differences are and try to make a decision
Lyndon
One thing to bear in mind is the tube used, i know shaun @ NOR uses clubman 500 CDS steel, which is top quality top strength (without going exotic)....i do believe Whitbread unless specified use cheaper, weaker lower spec blue band tube, which whilst it meets MSA spec, the clubman tube is much stronger and far exceeds the standards.....thus costs more!
alan kemp
Apr 3 2008, 09:33 AM
Trust me, CDS is recommended. I have had several rolls in mine, two ar*se over tit and it landed very heavily on the roll cage both times. CDS will (generally) spring back to its original position.
I bought mine from Dan Evans at Protection and Performance. They fit as well as supply only and they are millimeter perfect. They are oop here though.
gelf
Apr 3 2008, 11:20 AM
ive just had one from Whitbread off road......... very pleased with it.
who's is this ??
I thought I ever saw more pics of it.
Where can they be found ?
Gr,
Ced
http://www.exactfabrication.co.uk/resource...ls/truck%20cab%
Hendrik
Apr 4 2008, 07:54 PM
think you mean this one mate

indeed, looks very similar to mine .............
Want to have a closer look on it ;-)
I asume this one is bob-tailed
jules
Apr 4 2008, 09:47 PM
QUOTE (daveturnbull @ Apr 2 2008, 05:36 PM)

Pete at Stunning Services (see link in my sig) has been making cages for racers for years - his work has saved Jules' ass on many an occasion.
Only in Bournemouth so not too far from you.
Yep
Stunning cares have saved me on 4 seprate very big off's
3 racers all at 50+mph end overs and one challenge truck cage dropped 20' onto its roof
but all cage are bespoke
reads90
Apr 5 2008, 12:32 AM
QUOTE (jules @ Apr 4 2008, 09:47 PM)

Yep
Stunning cares have saved me on 4 seprate very big off's
3 racers all at 50+mph end overs and one challenge truck cage dropped 20' onto its roof
but all cage are bespoke
Yeah another recomndation for stunning from me
And BTW jules has really test his over the years cages
He had a very very big crash in this hybrid


And then there is of course his old 90 which had one of petes cages.
See the Video of the roll here

Even after a very heavy roll (or rather droped on its roof. It is still in one peice and doing its job)
jules
Apr 5 2008, 07:18 AM
I didn't have any pices of my first roll

three times end over and then was two or three barrel rolls at bickley bridge. The hybrid damage doesnt look to bad there

how wrong could a photo be the engine has broken free, both down pipes snapped and the head bolts were all stretched, rear tub torn off its mounts, fuel tank was ruptured and the whole truck needed completely rebuilding. that was about 2000 I think
the second was a Ibthorpe the the challenge truck was at Bunny lane
Every time I have had a big roll I have replaced the cage as you can't alway see damage
I was also in the stunning racer which it flipped as well.
Anorak_Stan
Apr 7 2008, 06:02 PM
Well a bit more of an update on Supplier Prices Etc.
Unfortunately Exact Fabrication are moving so will be unable to even think about doing roll cages for three months or so
QT Services were sounding interesting in what they could do until Dave Marsh told me the Price £1350 + VAT
And Finaly I got hold of Stunning Services they don't use CDS but use Red Label (I think that's what they said) and the price is £800 ish fitted.
So it looks like it's going to be between North, Whitbread & Stunning.
Stunning are the More local for Me but North are the Only one of the three that use CDS
Does anybody have some close up pics of the Stunning Rollcages ?
Thanks
Lyndon C
WALFY
Apr 7 2008, 06:19 PM
What is so special about your cage to cost that much from QT. Is it that bespoke?
Dont forget tho Walfy, your quote was "special" from QT, just like mine are lower from North Offroad due to our levels of previous business!
Steve 90
Apr 7 2008, 06:27 PM
This is whitbread, But I think he has changed them a bit now as the last of his I saw didn't taper in with the windscreen like mine. I think the price has gone up a bit since I had this. I did add a diagonal to the the roof which made it a lot more rigid. This truck has had some heavy rolls, Including going end over end 1 1/2 times then a series of barrel rolls to land back on it wheels at the bottom and seemed to come out of it well considering. I have also moved the rear stays to go up to the rear hoop at the point where the roof bars meet.
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WALFY
Apr 7 2008, 06:28 PM
AHHHH. For got that. Just as well cos I'm as tight as they come. I almost begrudged spending money with Ashcrofts until I dealt with them. When I got the goods I didn't begrudge the monet at all
Anorak_Stan
Apr 7 2008, 09:07 PM
QUOTE (WALFY @ Apr 7 2008, 07:19 PM)

What is so special about your cage to cost that much from QT. Is it that bespoke?
All Qutes are for the Same Basic Cage.
the "Special" part of my cage is that due to my Hydraulic Tank that's fitted in rear tub, the rear hoop cross braces cannot go down to base of hoop where it meets the chassis (I know this will make it non ARC or MSA)
Apart from that my only request is to make it as close fitting as humanly possible.
Lyndon
WALFY
Apr 7 2008, 09:13 PM
Would it not be easier to move the tank slightly? I know without seeing the veh that is a rash question, but if costs a lot less then it has to be worth a few hrs fabbing in the workshop
Anorak_Stan
Apr 7 2008, 09:59 PM
QUOTE (WALFY @ Apr 7 2008, 10:13 PM)

Would it not be easier to move the tank slightly? I know without seeing the veh that is a rash question, but if costs a lot less then it has to be worth a few hrs fabbing in the workshop
If I Could I Would, but it's all spaced out and have no free space as tank is "Fitted" to Bulkhead Shape then other part of tank is shaped to the spare wheel that in turn is touching the rear winch.
Pain in the arse I know but It in itself doesn't really add much to the cost of the cage according to North, Stunning and Whitbread appx £50>£100.
I just think QT don't really want the work - Hence the price.
Lyndon
Jon White
Apr 8 2008, 07:44 AM
I'd also say that having order pre-fabricated bends from QT, and sent them back again because of appauling quality problems, I wouldnt consider using them!
The whitbread stuff looks quite well made (he was usually at Sodbury selling prefabbed bends). The bends look well formed etc, but i've no idea how well they fit to the vehicle.
The QT stuff wasnt square, wasnt evenly bent, and the bending had casued the tubes to ripple on the insides of the bend. We achieved a better bend using a cheapo hand hydraulic bender, the garage floor and a tape measure! They were square, and there was no distortion on the bends.
QT's customer service left something to be desired as well!
Jon
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