I put this into the buyers guide (i.e. pinned above), but after a chat with Nige, I have also copied it here so that the buyers guide does not get clogged up with posts from you lot of p!ss taking barstewards...........

• Make : SIP Weldmate Industrial Synergic
• Model : IC300WS
• How Long have you had it / How old is it : 2 Weeks
• Typical Current Price : £1,200
• Maximum Welding Current (AMPS) : 300
• Output at 60% Duty Cycle : 196
• Welding Wire range in mm :0.6. 0.8, 1.0, 1.2
• Small Large or BOTH re Wire Spools : Yes
• Euro Torch (Yes / No ) : Yes
• Argosheild Bottle - max Size that will fit : Full size
• Weight : 101kg
• What is the most typical things you weld with it - thicknesses etc : 0.8mm - 6mm
• Other standard Features : Synergic functionality
• Good Points : Decent wheels and good construction. 12 Synergic programs for Ferrous, S/Steel, and Ali
• Bad Points : Bluddy huge .......1040 x 1040 x 560
• On a scale of 1 to 10 1 being very unhappy with it, and 10 being "Its perfect for me" rate it :10

OK, so lets look a some pictures ................





Also I have run a few beads ............... however, beads don't photograph particularly well and beads on actual joints always look better but are even harder to photograph.........

let the p!ss taking begin............remember, these are real close ups........... even the splatter looks like mountains


This is 0.8mm (22g) right through to 6mm plate ........... the long plate on the end was done with about 240A just for fun........




Then the real close ups ..............

22g - 0.8mm




18g - 1.2mm (ignore what I wrote on the weld sample - 20g )




3mm plate......




6mm plate at about 200A





and lastly 6mm plate welded a 240A ........ christ, you have to move fast








Ian

No p*$$ taking here. Looks impressive for a wide range of material thickness.

At 240 amp on 6mm im not suprised you had to move fast.

I dont expect you know what its like turned up high for long periods of welding yet?

Steve,

The 60% duty cycle is 196A ............ so I guess the 100% will be abou140A, but you will never weld continuously for 100% of the time..........

During the 'testing / getting the feel of it' stage I was running some big fat beads into 8mm plate at full power trying to blow a hole ............. which I successfully did ............. and it seemed OK with regard to power output.

The welding current is displayed digitally as you weld, so its easy to keep an eye on it...........




Ian

Ian

No P1$$ taking here either

Having used a Full Synergic at Mateys workshop it is superb, anyone could weld with it (Will, ......you listening mate ?)

Would be interested to see what Pure argon, Ali wire teflon liner and synergic would do on Ali ?

I could lend you a full bottle of Argon,........ and I may have an ali reel kicking about ?

Big Innit

Nige

Ahhh- that would be why my lights keep dimming!

Very nice Ian me like!!

yours is bigger than mine!!!

Flash git


Les.

I've just bought shares in Bumpkin Electric Co

Best you get lots of 50p's for your meter - you'll be needing them

I have it on good authority Mr BBC is currently in negotiations for planning permission for 3 wind turbines in his garden

Should be like a Toyota Prius,......... bit of assistance on full chat

Nige

Much niceness Ian

Mo

Sounds like a challenge!

The quoted current draw at full chat is 47amp, with a suggested breaker size of 50amp.

However, it will take out a 50 amp A curve breaker on half power due to the turn on current surge. As I was unable to source a B or C curve 50amp breaker locally , I now am using a 63amp C curve and that works perfectly. Why cant all the manufacturers make CU's with breaker compatibility

The welder is fed from a dedicated 10mm supply from the CU and protected by the breaker. Also a separate 10mm earth returns back to the CU.

Connection to the supply is made via a 3 pin 32A commando plug & Socket as these items have a safety rating of x2.

I guess this might not meet the 17th edition regs, but it wont be far off...........







Ian

Aren't new toys great!

So you're running it off single phase! Blimey!

What are your impressions of the synergic bit so far?

Cheers, Al


P.S. I have a small reel of ali wire I can donate to the challenge if you're going to go ahead!

Al,

Initial reactions sceptical ………….. but after 5 mins of use I don’t think it will return to manual mode very often.

The only minor glitch was the SIP interpretation of the wire speed setting. For synergic use you set the wire speed to a centre zero position on the control and you can then have an option of a +/- 25% variation. I found the factory setting to be a bit fast and now have it set at about -10% which seems to be about right.

I think some of the more expensive synergic’s use a pulsed MIG function. This machine keeps the wire speed / welding current correct in relation to the weld pool and hand movement alterations ……….. even to the point where if you make a sudden hand movement that is outside of the normal welding pattern it stops the feed for a split second whilst it thinks about it………. almost as if its giving you time to readjust your position correctly

Once the program is set the machine remembers it …………. all I do now is switch on and set the material thickness parameter and away you go ……………..

Interestingly the welding current and tip voltage are digitally displayed in real time ……….. If you get somebody to weld on manual, and then synergic………….. observing the real time current would give you the answer that synergic is better…………

I got my son in law to do this test whilst I watched the display ……….. and he is a coded welder.

Yes, I will give Ali a shot with MIG.................... give me a couple of weeks.........however, TIG is really the process for Ali and I guess that will be my next big purchase.





Ian

Cool, interesting, ta.

Mine has digi displays for current / voltage, but I've never been able to read them whilst welding! You almost want a playback function!

Tig eh? Want to buy a Miller Dialarc? I seem to be collecting them... Will run on 1 phase (230V), but will draw 105 amps at full cajones (but would you ever need a 300 Amp tig output realistically, anyway?).

Let me know if I can bring the ali wire to Billing for you - I'm not going to use it!

Oh - bring your welder, I want to try a synergic.

Al

synergic......the future