Mr_13B Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Hi Lads, As above. Doing a full rebuild at the mo and getting the Chassis dipped this week. Will need the engine etc back in to make space ASAP but I want to change the LT77 for an R380.. Just need to confirm which one I need as I've been told theres 2 different V8 types. Also gonna dump the Borg warner Transfer Box and get one from a Disco 300tdi. Will the ratios with the V8 R380 be the same as the 300tdi R380 ? Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Ratios differ, they're all on Ashcrofts website I believe. There's certainly different bellhousing & clutch for P38 compared to RRC/Disco 1, don't know about Disco 2. As for behind an SLT35, nothing LR made will be 100% happy - try to exercise mechanical sympathy, don't slog it at low revs - the engine will pull it but the gearbox will not thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_13B Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 I still have the LT77 with its bellhousing that I got with engine so I could change that too. Just need to know what difference of R380 is an input shaft length etc. Lt77 was rebuilt but I dont like reverse top left. Will the V8 R380 be the same ratio as the 300TDI R380 ? Cheers for the reply ! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 No, the ratios are different but not by much. Bellhousings & input shafts are different by about an inch because the R380 is different than the LT77 by about an inch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Personally I would live with the rebuilt LT77 and save yourself a few hundred pounds (at least), and a load of aggro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Personally I would live with the rebuilt LT77 and save yourself a few hundred pounds (at least), and a load of aggro. +1 There really isn't much difference, they are largely the same box anyway and the R380 despite it's evolution, doesn't actually carry any advantages over the LT-77. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_13B Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 Its the Reverse on the top left that annoys me. Off roading its a pain in the arse and as I have the body off and everything getting re done id rather do it all now while its off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Its the Reverse on the top left that annoys me. Off roading its a pain in the arse ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_13B Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 ?????? When your stuck and you want to go from 1st to Reverse really quickly the LT77 is a pain the arse with the Reverse top left ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 ....I would suggest he is referring to the reach distance for reverse say when on a steep failed hillclimb , lets face it , it's not like LandRover have an ergonomics section in the Defender design studio......... cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I prefer reverse top left as it's much easier to to reverse from first or second when off-roading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Fit a quick shift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 When your stuck and you want to go from 1st to Reverse really quickly the LT77 is a pain the arse with the Reverse top left ! I would say it's no easier at all. And slamming back and forth is really just poor driving IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrycol Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Its the Reverse on the top left that annoys me. Off roading its a pain in the arse and as I have the body off and everything getting re done id rather do it all now while its off. I agree completely and not only offroad - at the traffic lights as well - in 1994 I bought a new V8 Disco with the LT77 - kept on going into reverse when going for 1st at the traffic lights. Sold the vehicle a few months later and bought a new update with the R380 - what a breath of fresh air. Go a R380 over a LT77 anyday even if it costs a bit more. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I would say it's no easier at all. And slamming back and forth is really just poor driving IMO. Rocking back & forth can be a very effective technique to get un-stuck, but can require very rapid forward/reverse changes to rock the vehicle within the available movement. Nothing poor about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 There is if it's damaging to the vehicle. Pretty sure I know what the op wants too do, have seen many people do. No mechanical sympathy at all. Not getting stuck or proper recovery is a far more sensible thing. But then, maybe I'm just old and grumpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwakers Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I agree completely and not only offroad - at the traffic lights as well - in 1994 I bought a new V8 Disco with the LT77 - kept on going into reverse when going for 1st at the traffic lights. Sold the vehicle a few months later and bought a new update with the R380 - what a breath of fresh air. Go a R380 over a LT77 anyday even if it costs a bit more. Garry so your comparing a knackered lt77 for a r380 which hasnt worn out its reverse detent,.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrycol Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 so your comparing a knackered lt77 for a r380 which hasnt worn out its reverse detent,.... Hmmm no I sold the Disco with the LT77 with 3000km on it - was only 6 weeks old from new. So went from a new LT77 to a new R380 and I kept the R380 Disco for another 15 years and had no issues. The R380 was like a breath of fresh air compare to the LT77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwakers Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 ive driven a well setup lt77 there is no chance at all of accidentally selecting reverse if the detent is setup correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 While I also prefer the layout of the R380 gate, I agree that frequently selecting reverse by accident on a new LT77 smacks of ham fistedness. Fair enough on a worn out unit with knackered detents or maladjustment, but not a new one fresh from the factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Jeez, anyone else want to call the OP a ham-fisted vehicle abuser because of his choice of gearstick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Jeez, anyone else want to call the OP a ham-fisted vehicle abuser because of his choice of gearstick? No one did. Snagged called Garrycol one though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrycol Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Gearsticks and stones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Otherwise know as 'Sticks and stone may break my bones, but words can have a permanent effect'.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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