Ercial300 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I'm building my project rover, I intend on fitting my landy wheels but the hub will need machining down to do this, has anyone done this before? How much would it cost? thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 It depends on how good your machinist is as the hubs are very hard. you will also have to convert to disks in the prosess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Have you any pictures, drawings or dimensions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Doubt the hubs are that hard.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Yes they are, Dirty diesel also knows the struggle I'm pretty sure the mog hubs are surface hardened as the outer few mm put up a fight and slowed me down a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Not hard by our standards. They'll not be made of Titanium or iconel.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 CBN insert will show that sucker who is boss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercial300 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 Do any of you lot no anyone that can do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ercial300 Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Sorry Vulcan I couldn't see all the replies ... I haven't got any drawings or dimension but I have got pictures of what I want doing.. The pictures are copied from dirty diesel But I really want to keep the landy stud pattern but worst case I would consider others I don't have a machinist as yet I was hoping someone on here has done it befor and would be interested in doing it again lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercial300 Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 More pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dangerous doug Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 To convert them to a usable product that won't kill anyone you'll have to convert to something like a disco TD5 PCD which is slightly tighter bolt pattern than defenders/disco1s. The defender disks have the hubs bolt to them where the td5 disco discs sit over the hub. Unless you find a disk with the same PCD as the defender which also sits over the hub (let me know if you do) you will need to change the stud pattern. The way straight forward supplies did it was to turn the mog hub around and machine it so you could bolt the landrover assembly to it. Not only did it make an already wide axle wider, it had problems sealing. I have spoken to 3 people who had this conversion, all of them had problems with keeping the hub attached to the axle, one lost a wheel on the motorway and claimed the hub is only held on by 3 threads! Don't mess about for the sake of changing wheels. Hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercial300 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 I don't mind changing the stud pattern as I am wanting them to be strong and safe, the td5 is definitely an option I hadn't thought about if I'm honest, I've spoken to a bloke who does a 5x130 conversion for his own MOGs that he uses in competition but he said they are hard to find rims for, I want it to be right so any options I will definitely listen to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Given drawings Vulcan and I can both provide the service you require Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercial300 Posted June 7, 2016 Author Share Posted June 7, 2016 I will try and have something drawn up, have you done them before? If so how did you do it? Like the picture or a cut a new one from scratch? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I modified my Series 3 hubs for disc braking myself. My day job is a Turner, as is Vulcan. For either of us, it's a walk in the park. Modified or new. In some way's new is easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercial300 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 I would like new if I'm honest as I'd feel better knowing it was a full unit instead of a bit welded on, but I'm told the broch (if that's how you spell it lol) is expensive what sort of price do you think a new hub would be? Where are you based? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Yeah , internal splining is the expensive bit , unless it's a common spline having a broach made would be prohibitive . Good machining should be fine and you are talking to the right people cheers Steveb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercial300 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 Ahh finally it's sounding a lot more positive that my build will actually happen lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 We're both at the bottom of the M6. There's a company we use in Cov does broaching, again, need a drawing to get a price from him though, and yes, that's the expensive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Splines can be wire cut rather than broached.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercial300 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 If I brought you a Unimog hub and a Land Rover hub for size Guide also a disc could you do anything with it or design it as I'm pretty clueless with this kinda stuff if I'm honest with you :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 You do not need to make a new hub, machine the hub tube to make it square, reduce the OD of the flange, machine the new PCD and a matching spacer to sweat over the tube. The spacer is crucial as it will determine the back spacing of your disk. Then you need to find longer wheel studs that will pass through the hub and spacer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 ^^ That's what I'd do. I want to make new hubs for my Series 3, but they're a bit easier having no splines in them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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