Lionhound Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Ok so looking for a bit of comfort as in everyday use for work. Been given a pair of seats from an rx8 (heated and electric on drivers) Anyone put these in? Anyone able to advise on how? Not bothered about electrics for now (plenty probs with them already!!!) Though would be interested to hear if theres a quick way just to alter rake and position for now (rest can wait) Thanks people. Rab 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Hi Rab, Fitting them in what? Makes a big difference... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie64 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 ill be doing this shortly, so would be interested in any information or if none is available then watch this space and ill come up with a solution thanks tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I've fitted Mazda seats to my Defender - brilliant pieces of kit and the electrics are easy to do. You also need to remember that seat adjustment is now part of the MOT so you may as well sort that too. I chopped the mounting rails and welded so they mounted on a flat surface, then I think I picked up on the original mounting holes on one side. However r! I had not noticed that the latches for the doors were going to foul on the door cards (Homer Simpson moment). I only found out when I tried to close the door and ended up hacking the plastic housings on the seats.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie64 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 any chance of some photos fatboy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 In my mates 90 And less of the Fatboy :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Nice seats, aren't they a bit high, I know that Defenders have the higher windscreen than Series. I have Old Datson 120 seats on my LR which are comfy and look OK but I have to peer out under the top as they are a bit high. I now have a set of Ford Recaro seats to go in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 So, can they be fitted without welding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie64 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 i Picked up the seats today, look great. ill be fitting them tomorrow but in my opinion theres no welding necessary, just cut off the original brackets and bolt done thru the rails into the seat box. NOTE: ENSURE YOU REMOVE ANY AIRBAGS !!!!CAREFULLY!!!! TRY NOT TO DRILL INTO YOUR FUEL TANK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim2809 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I personally would weld brackets on to mount on original holes as that is where the seat box is degined to take loading and forces excerted by a seat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 i Picked up the seats today, look great. ill be fitting them tomorrow but in my opinion theres no welding necessary, just cut off the original brackets and bolt done thru the rails into the seat box. NOTE: ENSURE YOU REMOVE ANY AIRBAGS !!!!CAREFULLY!!!! TRY NOT TO DRILL INTO YOUR FUEL TANK Very intrerestuing threwad / upgarde - watching to see whow these are fitted wired etc but puzzled re : Air Bags ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Some seats have air bags in the sides for side impacts and to deflect the window glass I think. A Google search for seat airbags shows the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 wowzer, ......... ..........a description of where they are on RX8s and how to get at them / remove would be interesting / useful ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 http://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/how-rx8-seats-into-fb-428256/ "removing the airbags is a simple 10mm bolt behind the SRS cover. the yellow connector IS the airbag power connector. nothing else" This is info from the internet I accept no responsibility use at your own risk :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie64 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Ok, A little More on fitting, sorry no pics ill get some tonight. AirBags- these are the side airbags and can be carefully removed my flipping up the SRS logo undoing a bolt and then the whole air bag can be lifted off (personally I dislike having them there at all so I then undid the 3 nuts holding the airbag to the metal plate, prized off the plastic cover, unfolded and cut open the bag and removed the airbag 'firing unit' then refitted the plate and plastic cover to the seats (Note: air bags can be very dangerous so anything you do to them is at your own risk and whatever you do - DO NOT let any electricity near to the units!! Next I cut off all the brackets under the seat rails, easy job, then line the seats up where you want them and bolt the rails straight to the seat box at the front, I found the original holes are slightly off, so I drilled new holes and fitted rivnuts, I then fitted approx. 6mm spacer under the rails so the drivers seat motors don't foul the seat box. next step, test and check you are happy with the seats, all inline and don't foul when moved about Awesome Electrics on the seats: Yellow Plug - SRS, bin this Seat Motion - Thick Grey +12V Thick Purple Ground Lumber - Yellow Red Trace +12V White Yellow Trace Ground Seat Heater - Blue +12V I haven't bolted the rear of the seats down yet but I will probably make a mount so that the seats are lifted a bit at the rear so the seat base clears the seat box covers, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Did I read that right, you've used rivnuts to secure the seats to the vehicle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 A couple of months ago, I was looking for the wiring diagram for RRS heated seat controllers - and found a Ford Forum where a member had posted a photo of the underside of his drivers seat asking if the plug shown could be for heated seats? The plug was yellow! Surprisingly, nobody in the subsequent posts suggested this might be the Airbag. Eventually after some speculation someone suggested putting power in to it to see if the seat heats up. (I'm thinking Nooooo!) A couple of posts further on - there was a photo of the seat split open where the airbag had exploded out of the side. Guess it did heat up, albeit rather briefly! Top Tip - Avoid any yellow wiring! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Did I read that right, you've used rivnuts to secure the seats to the vehicle? My standard defender seats are bolted down into rivnuts, albeit 1 tonne rivnuts. All TD5 defenders use rivnuts from factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie64 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Yep Rivnuts, that's what the more modern defenders have OEM, haha Si that would be interesting to see (note: never energize something you are unsure of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Aibags can be fun (with the standard dont try this at home warning). The ones i removed from my Audi A6 seats and the Merc i stripped for the motor got put to good use. I was able to get the merc steering wheel a good 30ft into the air, at the end of a long cable and fired by a 12v battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Yep Rivnuts, that's what the more modern defenders have OEM, You are having a laugh. If the seatbelt mount is to the seat thats downright stupid. Even if its to the body, thats a huge weight which is going to rip out in a crash and try to meet the nut behind the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 BAd as that might be, if you are worried about that in a crash, you shouldn't really be driving a Land Rover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 You are having a laugh. If the seatbelt mount is to the seat thats downright stupid. Even if its to the body, thats a huge weight which is going to rip out in a crash and try to meet the nut behind the wheel. Have you ever seen a Defender? The seats and seatbelt mounts are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 RX8 seats have the belt clip on the seat, so if you use that... then well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Have you ever seen a Defender? The seats and seatbelt mounts are different. Yes, i've owned 3. Your point is? One should do something dangerous just because its a Defender? If you mean that the belt mounts are direct to correct points, then thats one step better (if he hasn't used the seat mounts for the belts). But I would not want be sitting on 50kg of unrestrained mass in an accident. Recommending Rivnuts into 1.5mm aluminium for seat mounts in a write-up is not something that should be published on a responsible forum. It's not exactly difficult to use some decent spreader washers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.