minivin Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Just wondering, what years did LR make the 110 with a Salisbury rear axle, that had disc brakes, that could be transfered over to a late Series III 109 rear Salisbury Axle? Just planning future mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Just wondering, what years did LR make the 110 with a Salisbury rear axle, that had disc brakes, that could be transfered over to a late Series III 109 rear Salisbury Axle?Just planning future mods 1994 model year, Diesel Jim posted this on LRO. if IIRC info on how to convert a rear drum braked 110 using 2nd hand or new parts with full credit to diesel jim get the drum braked salisbury, pull the whole lot off, but leave the stub axles in place. get an ex 90 front axle, remove the hub & stud assembly (this is the bit with the wheelbearing in that the wheels bolt to). then buy a pair of the salisbury rear axle calliper mounting brackets (used on the early disc braked salisburies before they started making the casings with the calliper brackets moulded into them). bolt these on, then stick the front hubs onto the salibury stubs (they fit straight on). use the front spacer thing (with the tag on it) onto the rear stubs. (it will be able to rotate about 10 degrees either way, but it won't when everything is tightened up), then adjust the wheelbearings as usual. the standard drum braked salisbury halfshafts WILL fit perfectly. i measured mine with the differential out on a salisbury casing and its exactly the same as with drum brakes fitted. you need to fit either: rangie rear discs with rangie callipers (small pads though.....) OR 110 rear discs and 110 rear callipers. much better, but more expensive, the rangie callipers are <almost> 2 a penny. they both share the same bolt spacing that fits straight onto the mounting brackets. If you use the rangie callipers, then you'll need to grind/cut/mill about 4 mm off of the brackets and callipers (2mm off of each will do) to get the callipers to clear the edge of the disc, so it may be easier to get the 110 brakes. i've done the conversion on an axle that is going to go onto my rebuilt 90 soon. just got to get the callipers milled a bit. i'll post some pics ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 ooh piccies would be great! I suppose the other thing to check is the hubs are the same depth on both series III and later i.e. half shafts are the same length Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I had 6mm milled off the calliper brackets this perfectly centered the calliper on the disc, allthough 4mm may be enough to clear the disc. I opted to have the bracket machined rather than the calliper as it keeps things standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 ooh piccies would be great! I suppose the other thing to check is the hubs are the same depth on both series III and later i.e. half shafts are the same length diesel jim the man who should have pics of the swap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Rob, Yes - it'll fit (or can be made to fit). I have exactly this set up on the back of my series (although my rear axle isnt a salisbury). If you do a search on the old LRE forum you'll find a post I did telling you exactly what needs to be done. Cheers Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Oh - you cant use the defender half shafts - they're much too long! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Oh - you cant use the defender half shafts - they're much too long!Jon Cheers! any idea what the title was you used as it may take some time to find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I'll have a dig around... i think i've got some piccies somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 I'll have a dig around... i think i've got some piccies somewhere! cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Er.......dunno - it was a reply to someones question about disk brakes! Its one there somewhere but I dont requent there anymore so........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuzurover Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Oh - you cant use the defender half shafts - they're much too long!Jon The short halfshaft in a 110 (pre defender) and a SIII are exactly the same length. The long shaft is 6" shorter in a SIII - but that doesn't matter as you just use the SIII shafts. What you do need to do, is swap the SIII stub axles for early 110 (or SIII Stage 1) stub axles - this is because the SIIA and SIII hubs have one big and one small hub bearing, while all coil sprung hubs (and stage 1 as well) have 2 bearings in the same size (in between the series sizes). Another option - is I know people who have machined the rear face of the SIII hub smooth, and drilled and tapped it to accept a disc/rotor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Er.......dunno - it was a reply to someones question about disk brakes!Its one there somewhere but I dont requent there anymore so........... Search function is pooped and trying to search through a users posts is pooped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 The short halfshaft in a 110 (pre defender) and a SIII are exactly the same length. The long shaft is 6" shorter in a SIII - but that doesn't matter as you just use the SIII shafts.What you do need to do, is swap the SIII stub axles for early 110 (or SIII Stage 1) stub axles - this is because the SIIA and SIII hubs have one big and one small hub bearing, while all coil sprung hubs (and stage 1 as well) have 2 bearings in the same size (in between the series sizes). Another option - is I know people who have machined the rear face of the SIII hub smooth, and drilled and tapped it to accept a disc/rotor. Cheers! now all I got to do is find an axle or a 110 being scrapped..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 i just used late ser3 stubs, they use same size bearings and then fitted classic rangie hubs onto them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted January 19, 2006 Author Share Posted January 19, 2006 i just used late ser3 stubs, they use same size bearings and then fitted classic rangie hubs onto them. thanks for reminding me of that, as me axles painted I wouldn't care if it had brackets welded on so that's a option on getting the bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Sigh...........do you want me to wet nurse you aswell???? Discs thread Didnt take me long to find...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 thanks for reminding me of that, as me axles painted I wouldn't care if it had brackets welded on so that's a option on getting the bits i only welded my caliper brackets to the axle cos i can, savin me the cost of bolt on ones, ser3 stubs still work with bolt on caliper brackets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Cheers! now all I got to do is find an axle or a 110 being scrapped..... Disc braked salisburys fetch strong money (~£300) when you can find them as everyone with a drum braked 110 wants to upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted January 19, 2006 Author Share Posted January 19, 2006 Sigh...........do you want me to wet nurse you aswell???? Discs thread Didnt take me long to find...... Time is sparse, work is long think I'm aiming at a 65hr week this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 brackets new are about 25 quid each rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Time is sparse, work is long think I'm aiming at a 65hr week this week Stop moaning and learn to delegate! Oh........and learn to drive too! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Oh........and learn to drive too! B) and take Mr Barker with u cos he needs some lessons too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 and take Mr Barker with u cos he needs some lessons too ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I converted my 110 Salisbury to discs in the early 90's and can't remember all the details. The caliper mount is clever and I bought them from a chap up North somewhere called Glen. Used to have a power saw in his living room! I've lost touch with him now. They bolt to the inner face of the axle end flange (this is a machined face) and take RR calipers, although I subsequently changed to Capri calipers which fit with fettling. They also have the advantage of being able to fit a second set of calipers for fiddle or handbrake. I have a spare drum axle if anyone wants it, all working but needs new bearings. The disc axle is on a pallet if anyone wanted to see how it was done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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