lrfarmer Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 one of the top of the rear shocks have snaped how safe would it be for me to weld it back on it looks like it was only a spot (type) weld when new so if i weld it back on i can't think it will be less strong that it needs to be but would like some other peoples ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Humphreys Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 You could just weld it back on, or phone Procomp and because they have a life time warrenty they will send out a new shock. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrfarmer Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 wasn't shore if i could as i got them second hand any one know the number or email address Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Pro-Comp will tell you that it broke because you don't have a strap to limit articulation and they are not designed to support the weight of a wheel/axle pulling downwards. That was their response when both rear shock absorbers on my Defender lost their top eyes first time out. You could weld it back on without any problems and it will be stronger than the original weld, however, the eyes also split if the weld doesn't give way, again, been there, done that. The metal of the eye is so thin that the metal ripped in half when I cross axled it for the first time. Replace them with Lovell's or OME instead, Pro-Comps lasted 6 hours on my Defender, OME lasted 2 years and, so far, Lovells have lasted 8 months and still no sign of any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish Grundy Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 this happened to me, 3 times, i dont use them any more, i welded mine back on and it was fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbon Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I snapped the eye through on my hybrid a while back, seems a common problem with them! Was told to only buy pro comp from foundry 4x4 as they specify the eye to be made of thicker gauge metal, not sue if its true or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 This happened to Stu (bluedisco) on sunday whilst we were out laning, snapped both upper eyes off the Pro Comp rear shocks. He didn't half bounce as we followed him home Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish Grundy Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 have any of you tryed rough country shocks? im using those now and havnt had any trouble. altho i do have pin type fixing allround now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Tim weld it back on and it will be fine. Same thing happened on Kris's trcuk and that has survived many challenge events since he welded it back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrfarmer Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 Timweld it back on and it will be fine. Same thing happened on Kris's trcuk and that has survived many challenge events since he welded it back on. lets hope so as im towing the caravan up and doing somerset & wiltshire's mendip chalange on the 11oct but the MOT runs out first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petes Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 And here is an OME LTR off my 90..... No better IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrfarmer Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 welded the broken one and i've done the other side at the same time before that one brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtail4x4 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I considered an extra strap when the top came off the rear Koni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_LLAMA4x4 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I considered an extra strap when the top came off the rear Koni. WASHERS! BLOODY WASHERS !!! ProComp are alright for the money - I used to sell loads of them til I got Rough Country to make some for me. The eye problem with ProComp is IMHO ( based on years of running around offroad events looking at broken ones ) only 10% ProComps fault and 90% the muppet with the spanners! The ProComp share of the blame is that they are using the same bush setup that was invented in about 1956 on an 86" Series ! - never ever intended to rake the sideways stretch that a longer than standard travel shock on a coiler will give. This is a big shortcoming of the ProComp eye and one I addressed with a different bush on my RC ones like the later Land Rover ones. The 90^ blame on the fitter is that they put the washers on backwards!! The big washers on the upper rear shock mount are ( if you look ) quite domed on the one side and flat on the other. THE DOMED SIDE MUST FIT TO THE SHOCK BUSH SIDE If you put the flat side to the shock bush then on sideways flex the eye of the shock touches the washer and completely eliminates any rubber flexability in the mount. The weakest bit of metal is the weld on the eye so that is the bit that goes ping..... Check your washers and turn them around if they are on wrong and this will almost entirely eliminate the broken eye problem. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyzeus Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 When i renewed both my rear top bushes i used Deflex, broke both top mounts in under 2 weeks...... With the new shock's i used Polybushes, no problems and yes they are Procomp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clbarclay Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 The deflex bushes for the top of rear dampers must be a joke, its the only polite explination I can find for them. The seem to have been made with the same design principals as clown shoes. ordinary rubber bushes pushes into damper Deflex bush pushed into the same damper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtail84 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 WASHERS! BLOODY WASHERS !!! ProComp are alright for the money - I used to sell loads of them til I got Rough Country to make some for me. The eye problem with ProComp is IMHO ( based on years of running around offroad events looking at broken ones ) only 10% ProComps fault and 90% the muppet with the spanners! The ProComp share of the blame is that they are using the same bush setup that was invented in about 1956 on an 86" Series ! - never ever intended to rake the sideways stretch that a longer than standard travel shock on a coiler will give. This is a big shortcoming of the ProComp eye and one I addressed with a different bush on my RC ones like the later Land Rover ones. The 90^ blame on the fitter is that they put the washers on backwards!! The big washers on the upper rear shock mount are ( if you look ) quite domed on the one side and flat on the other. THE DOMED SIDE MUST FIT TO THE SHOCK BUSH SIDE If you put the flat side to the shock bush then on sideways flex the eye of the shock touches the washer and completely eliminates any rubber flexability in the mount. The weakest bit of metal is the weld on the eye so that is the bit that goes ping..... Check your washers and turn them around if they are on wrong and this will almost entirely eliminate the broken eye problem. David What he said and you dont have to tighten the nut up till your jaykobs are up round ya ears as this compresses the bush and you will have no flex in the bush . If you can afford them get lowered shock mounts as this gives more travel before the is at full extention, but dont over do the nilock nut..... Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrfarmer Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 All my wachers are on the right way round Nuts only just got to the nilock bit BUT i do have deflex bushes but thay should be stronger now i've welded them but haven't done any off roading yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 If you can afford them get lowered shock mounts as this gives more travel before the is at full extention, but dont over do the nilock nut..... Jeff. Yes but gives less travel in compression (well, you've still the same travel but maximum compression is reached earlier) so that unless you buy taller bump stops you'll rip the tops off when the damper can't compress any more ! Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtail84 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Yes but gives less travel in compression (well, you've still the same travel but maximum compression is reached earlier) so that unless you buy taller bump stops you'll rip the tops off when the damper can't compress any more !Mo True but ive found that the 35" simex will rub long before the axel reaches the extended bump stops, well they do on my RR.. Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Yes but gives less travel in compression (well, you've still the same travel but maximum compression is reached earlier) so that unless you buy taller bump stops you'll rip the tops off when the damper can't compress any more !Mo I have found that with standard length shocks, -2" top mounts and standard bump stops that the shock is fine....... That was on a RRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 This happened to Stu (bluedisco) on sunday whilst we were out laning, snapped both upper eyes off the Pro Comp rear shocks. He didn't half bounce as we followed him home Mo Yep was funny to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I have found that with standard length shocks, -2" top mounts and standard bump stops that the shock is fine.......That was on a RRC. Stu had +2 Pro Comps and ripped the eyes open rather than breaking them off Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks906 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 on me old disco i had a problem with +2" pro comps the rears pins at the bottom kept snapping off all replaced free of charge, was going to replace the mount to fit different shocks eyes each end, but the +4 (or +5 if you measure them) they are/have been fine for over 12 months on me def 90 BUT not sure if they are for a land rover as they came with extra bits in the box, so the shape or size of bits might be different but not measured out dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrfarmer Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 well the one didn't last the mendips out had to borrow one off a friends CCVer to get this lot home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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