FridgeFreezer Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Tape measures on standby! I'm trying to build a list of all the standard LR propshafts so that people (OK, mainly me ) can find a stock propshaft to suit rather than having to crawl under all their mate's vehicles with tape measures in the hope of finding something that will fit. So far, from the front of the green bibles, I have accumulated these below. All measured at rest (centre of the sliding joint) and I'm not convinced the mm/inches conversion is correct - but it's copied straight from the book! Might explain LR's engineering "tolerances" Series 1: 86, 88, 107, 109 Front: 654mm / 23.812" 86 & 88 Rear: 554mm / 21.812" 107 & 109 Rear: 1087mm / 42.812" Series 3: 4cyl Front - 604.8 mm / 23.812" 6cyl Front - 693.7 mm / 27.312" 88" Rear - 554.0 mm / 21.812" 109" 4cyl Rear - 1042.9 mm / 41.062" 109" 6cyl Rear - 955.7 mm / 37.625" Any measurement is good - but if anyone has the green bible for other models you might find it written in there in the tech data section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 is it worth adding in slip joint lengths as well? think all the above are only 2" slip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 just what I was thinking yesterday. Idealy the max and min length of each propshaft would be handy. Also additional detail such as special models, double cardan, high angle etc. would be very usefull. Also which uj size it is. I ended up using a 88" rear prop at the back and a 90" rearprop at the front of my coil sprung 88". I found these by walking on the old sodbury sortout with a tape measure. I cant be very helpfull with creating this list at te moment, cause my landy is about 100 miles away from me! Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 Good point Rob - whatever info people can post will be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Series 1:86, 88, 107, 109 Front: 654mm / 23.812" 86 & 88 Rear: 554mm / 21.812" I could be wrong but last time i changed my Series 1 86" the front and rear were the same length! 86" and 88" certainly arent the same as one has an extra 2" in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I could be wrong but last time i changed my Series 1 86" the front and rear were the same length!86" and 88" certainly arent the same as one has an extra 2" in it. Right I've ad me bath now and can be more usefull! 86" front and rear are the same as 88" rear 88" fronts are longer due to the extra 2" in the wheel base is in the front (to allow for a smelly oil burner thing). I think this is great idea to log these dimmensions, how are you going to make them easily findable? When ever I return to Forum I can never find stuff again! I've just come to a halt trying to change the bushes on the Panard rod on the Hybrid (used the tip on here for removing bushes works great cheers) Early V8, 6 bolt axle tubes and a 4 speed manual, so I figure they are early RR bushes. Pulled the old ones out and nope the new ones are too small a diameter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 Hopefully if there is enough goo technical info in the thread it'll end up in the tech archive I did wonder about the 86/88 lengths but they're what's in the (albeit badly scanned) green bible I've got! If someone wants to add real-life measurements it'd be interesting to see who's right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 3, 2006 Author Share Posted June 3, 2006 Some more results: 110 300TDi Commercial 1997: Front: 635mm Rear: 1100mm Range Rover V8 4-speed Auto 1986: Front: 610mm Rear 890mm Both measured on-vehicle with average levels of random junk in the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Looked in the green bible for the disco, and it dosen't give prop lengths unfortunatly. I will have a go with a tape measure next time I am uner there though. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MogLite Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Some Land Rover oddities Top one is for a Salisbury front axled vehicle (Defender or Series I'm not sure) Bottom one is Stage 1 V8 Front I'll update the thread later with the part numbers and lengths (the post-it note is in my garage somewhere) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeppimp Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 just taken this off the truck as it's binding after the lift: Series 1 80" rear - 40cm compressed, 45cm extended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmoor Beast Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 This excellent thread needs some support, come on folks get measuring. 1989 110 rear propshaft. 1015mm to 1070mm Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I'll measure the LSE's prop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Td5 110 w/ R380 & LT230 rear 1110mm, front 620~630mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Since someone's just posted it up, I'll add: Tdi Discovery rear 887mm's long. Also Defender 200 front 685 Def 200 rr 667 Def 300 fr 637 Def 300 Rr 720 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hi, if you need a special propshaft my solution for a S1 hybrid was to modify a Disco rear shaft. Ist lay shaft on a flat surface , inside the Vee of a piece of angle iron. Scribe a line down the shaft guided by the angle near the end you are going to cut off. Centre punch the UJ and the line in several places to retain allignment later. Grind off weld joining UJ to shaft close to UJ, break the pieces apart carefully and clean up the UJ stub. Using a large tube cutter cut a light groove around the point you wish to cut off the excess tube. If in doubt leave some extra for a second go. If you dont have a tube cutter wrap a piece of A4 paper round the shaft several times and pencil mark the edge which will give you 90degree cut line . Carefully hacksaw off (otherwise using a tube cutter you will get a lip pressed onto the inner edge of the tube) . Push the stub back into the tube aligning the centre punch marks and offer it up to the axle/tranfer box with the chassis chocked, axle hanging and check your slide shaft will cover full articulation. When you are satisfied re-check allignment and tack weld 4 the joint at 12 6 9 and 3 oclock. Then finish weld. If you are stick welding, weld small sections at a time and chip/grind the slag before restarting. Tidy up your welds if necessary but dont grind flush!! I started using this method after making up lorry pump drives as they usually came new with one end unfitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECCANO Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Another one: Lse front propshaft (solid bar type to clear auto box) Found lengths on "the bay" 665mm and 703mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoggyN Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Series 1: 86, 88, 107, 109 Front: 654mm / 23.812" 86 & 88 Rear: 554mm / 21.812" 107 & 109 Rear: 1087mm / 42.812" Both 86" props are the same length at 22"ish BTW 654mm isn't 23.812" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECCANO Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Just to add, i have another 80" rear prop here, but it measures in at 38cm and 43cm. land rover tolerances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Just to resurect this great thread Anyone know the length of a 1985 V8 90 Front Prop ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 New info for this old thread. Santana 2500DC (88", LT85+230, parabolics) has the shortest rear prop I have ever seen in a production vehicle: 380mm at rest. Box end is double cardon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongo321 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 defender 90 300tdi 1996 rear 70cm fitted , new one coming is 69cm i assume closed fully . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hario' Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 10/23/2009 at 7:12 PM, MECCANO said: Another one: Lse front propshaft (solid bar type to clear auto box) Found lengths on "the bay" 665mm and 703mm This information is incorrect. the dimensions are actually 665 extended 603 compressed i need to buy a spacer now to make it work.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 12 inches, but i don't use it as a rule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Hunter Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 You’ve obviously got the measure of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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