ltwt1981 Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 We have a Berlingo going cheap, body problems, got a 1.8 diesel in it, anyone any thoughts on putting this in a series motor. R plate but runs OK. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 We have a Berlingo going cheap, body problems, got a 1.8 diesel in it, anyone any thoughts on putting this in a series motor.R plate but runs OK. Thanks. Well, it can't have less power than a series motor! How is it for torque? Will you use the gearbox too? You either need to mate that to a transfer box, or mate the engine to the series (or replacement) box of course, this would be the biggest headache. Is it going in a SWB or LWB landy? How long is the box? I suppose if you only want 2wd you could dispense with the transfer box mating problem, but it's hardly an upgrade, is it! Physical dimensions / clearances? Weight (must be less than a series engine - so thats a good start). Just a few Q's to get you going! Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 they're fwd aint they? be tricky to use the box imo. i would only imagine they can be 65bhp ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Perkins Prima (Montego) 2l turbo diesel engine. That is the answer. You can get an adapter ring off the shelf too. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diff Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Berlingo engine has less power and torque than a 2.25 petrol, and very similar to a 2.25 diesel, but with peak torque higher up the rev band than the landrover engine. Performance (apart from economy) would be worse! Way too small! Regards, Diff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Perkins Prima (Montego) 2l turbo diesel engine. That is the answer. You can get an adapter ring off the shelf too.Chris That would also be a old Freelander engine. they go quite well aparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 My works 04 plate berlingo will just about do a tonne downhill with the wind behind, but takes an age to get there! IMHO its underpowered. I'd prefer to look for the 2.8tdi isuzu lump and drop that in - kits available off the shelf and the engines are bulletproof! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90hybrid Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Perkins Prima (Montego) 2l turbo diesel engine. That is the answer. You can get an adapter ring off the shelf too.Chris I agree Chris. Sorry for the hijack gents. Good engine the prima, but only use the turbo version. Had one in my S3 SWB for around 6 years. 34mpg, instant start, good speed, high revving - 5000 rpm, with a little fuel tweek able to cruise at 75 mph with overdrive, got my adaptor from dudleigh, believe they have now adapted their kit to take the existing landrover flywheel and starter. No problems at all. They (Rover) probably should have done more development work to this engine as it goes like a bomb in a landy....especially series ones and very of course now cheap to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Wots this? A French car with body problems....? Never!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 That would also be a old Freelander engine.they go quite well aparently I thought the 2 litre diesel in Freelander was a Rover L series diesel or is it the Prima under disguise ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 L-series is a development of the Prima. IIRC there is a DI head on the L series rather than the IDI on the Prima. They certainly look similar. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90hybrid Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 L-series is a development of the Prima. IIRC there is a DI head on the L series rather than the IDI on the Prima. They certainly look similar.Chris Actually Chris sorry to correct you, the Prima is Di (Direct injection) none of that old fangled struggle-to-start IDI stuff. For info or anyone sourcing the engine...Perkins built it under licence for Rover who used them in Montego / Maestros / Sherpas. As you say all Rover did was modernise the basic unit from approx 1995 onwards and use it as L- series in their later rover cars incl freelander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Wrong again. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 So using the Montego adapter plate you can fit any L-series to a 4-pot Landy bellhousing? Wonder if any other rover lumps share the bellhousing pattern as the L seems to stop at 11bhp which isn't quite enough to be interesting Hmmm... Wikipedia is my friend: In 1986, BL collaborated with Perkins to convert the O-series to run on diesel. The oil-burning versions (known as the "Perkins Prima") proved to be highly successful in the Maestro and Montego, and helped sustain the ailing mid-sized models into the 1990s.By 1987, British Leyland (now known as the Austin Rover Group) equipped the O-Series with a 16-valve cylinder head for the Rover 800. This 2.0 litre unit was known as the M-Series, and was further reworked into the T-Series in 1992. The original 8-valve version of the O-Series was also briefly used in budget versions of the Rover 800. And the M-series went into the Disco MPi, which brings me full circle to Marko Cosic's 2.0T & LT77 Series. Thread hijack over, normal service can now continue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltwt1981 Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share Posted November 9, 2006 Thanks people, it was only a thought, binned now. Body problems depend on what hits it and how hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Be a good engine for an SJ413 though........ I'll get me coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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