[No more Land Rover…?]

11 minutes ago, Daan said:

To be fair, I doubt any land rover is bought by individuals these days. They are generally company cars, so for business use. So either bought on finance by the company or leased.

I think this is very true.

[No more Land Rover…?]

4 minutes ago, ThreePointFive said:

That's not really what I'm saying though. Just that most new cars are now out of reach for most people without finance. I'm categorically not saying there's anything wrong with that. Selling cars at 100k+ doesn't help, though.

My judgement is on the kind of gimps who try to lord it over others with their (bank's) new car.

 

Life really is too short to worry about the motivations behind the buying habits of others. If having a shiny new reg vehicle regularly on the drive makes them happy then so be it. Their means of funding same is irrelevant.

Those "gimps" provide the hand me downs for non gimp types. 

[No more Land Rover…?]

6 hours ago, Nonimouse said:

After 75 years of unreliability and customer product testing, it's sad, but about as expected as a thing we all know about. JLR is a low volume manufacturer who's intrinsic component companies have survived on it's past for longer than I've been around.

I'm quite please that my own favourite vehicles and my own past will no longer be associated with the JLR brand

Very true and after decades of owning, fettling and faffing with more Land Rover's than I care to remember your last line probably holds true for me too.

Still, if Ineos gets its act together and manages to get the the Grenadier out to customers in some kind of numbers the trickle down in decades to come will enable some to tinker with what will then be venerable vehicles. Perhaps these will still capable of exploring parts of the world that have been explored by thousands of others before.

[No more Land Rover…?]

4 hours ago, ThreePointFive said:

I've felt that way about cars for a while now. It seems impossible to buy and own your vehicle from new, the best most of us can do is get something 5+ years old without the bank owning it for you.

I know a lot of people are quite happy living this way if it means they can drive a symbol of how well they're doing. The irony that they can't actually afford it seems lost though.

I look forward to the traditional Jaguar depreciation making any future cars infinitely affordable after only a few weeks.

That's a pretty broad brush. There are still enough people willing to buy new, by whatever means and who are we to judge, and not all buy just to keep up with the neighbours. Without those who purchase new there will be no vehicles for those further down the used chain to buy and perhaps spend their time fettling / improving.

 

[Let's cut to the chase shall we?]

Fingers crossed.....

[Wooden 90]

Comes with free termites?

[Annoyed]

Apart from the Ring doorbell thingy that my son bought us for Christmas all my CCTV stuff around here now is wired and split into areas. Each area is independent and has its own dedicated hard drive recorder. 

[E10 Petrol and Fuel Lines]

I won't put E10 in my '43 Jeep.

[Let's cut to the chase shall we?]

I keep checking this thread....

[Let's cut to the chase shall we?]

Any updates from your dealer or Ineos @jeremy996

[200TDI Refurbished Head - Corrosion]

Any attempt at rectification  could invalidate any warranty that came with it. Return with a request to replace or rectify at their expense.

[Thoughts and Musings on the Ineos Grenadier]

I'm not sure if it helps but it appears to have downloaded onto my Android tellingbone via Chrome and then be fully openable using Google Drive

[The "Pass the Bucket" 4x4 For Sale on Ebay Thread]

Crikey, I can't remember the last time I saw a Frontera on or off the road...

[LRO]

 Yep, remember all those. I also had LRO issue one and follow ons for a number of years but as has been said it just became repetitive and a for me, like other mags a bit cringe worthy.

Books I keep, my grandfather was an antiquarian book dealer and would always say "books are silent friends" but Land Rover magazines just pile up and are nigh on impossible to search for info if time is short.  

 

[LRO]

Well past its best. Shame that people will loose employment though.

I shall keep my own council regarding other forums, their style and the management thereof as I do not think it wise to go over ground that was well trodden years ago.

It is nice to think that THIS forum remains.

[Let's cut to the chase shall we?]

One step closer...

Nice colour. 

New vehicles sat in a compound out the back of dealerships waiting for PDI and fitting of accessories etc is all part of it. I'd be jumping up and down having to wait this long and still not know when I'd get hands on though.

[Clearance Tow Hitches]

6 minutes ago, L19MUD said:

 

Got bitten by one on a trailer last weekend.... again.

[Thoughts and Musings on the Ineos Grenadier]

The last video leaves me cold. I am sure there will be other aftermarket bolt on manufacturers that are not quite so concerned at being the first to knock up something pretty.

[Thoughts and Musings on the Ineos Grenadier]

When I saw a new post from you before opening the thread I admit to hoping you had positive news about finally getting your Grenadier...

The video? Well annoyin' presentation innit.

[Clearance Tow Hitches]

Those little cables eventually corrode as they are vulnerable to road salt and carp. I put chains on mine like Uncle Ralph.

[Thoughts and Musings on the Ineos Grenadier]

No developments I guess @jeremy996 ?

[Thoughts and Musings on the Ineos Grenadier]

19 minutes ago, jeremy996 said:

My patience is being sorely tried. I spoke to my dealer this afternoon; they are on notice my truck should be with them on the 02/04/2023. They still don't know if all the softwear updates will be available, how long registration, PDI and adding dealer fit extras will take.

I'm especially sore about it as I have been caught in the rain driving the Morgan. It's OK when actually going forwards, you just get soggy when stopped at traffic lights! Still, client thought it was funny.

Oh dear. Hopefully things will progress rapidly and smoothly once at the dealers.

[Thoughts and Musings on the Ineos Grenadier]

18 hours ago, jeremy996 said:

 I am assured that everything is moving along; one of the dealers, (Steve at Halliwell Jones Chester), put up a picture of the hardback manual. There has been a little debate about how thick it is!

 

 

@jeremy996

You Sir, are an object lesson in the art of patience! 

🙂

[Wheels sticking outside the arches and the MOT]

Fortunately the moderators and admins here are rarely required to step in and pass any kind of judgement on content but this seems to be one of the rare occasions when a few polite words are required.

I think as far as this thread goes the tone is now not what is generally considered acceptable on this forum.

While we are happy to grant a bit of leeway to members who are perhaps unaware of the norms here due to the limited time spent on this platform, the current tit for tat needs to stop.

 

[Thoughts and musings on the new defender]

4x4 Pickups rule around here. Most new Defenders appear to be non manual working types but some of those I do see may be being used for business, just not in manual type trades. I used to see a green and white roof one on steels regularly but that appears to have done a bunk now.