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PRC3875 is for vehicles up to 1990
STC439 is for vehicles from 1990 to 1996
The difference is that STC439 has a position for intermittent wipers.
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3 minutes ago, Green200tdi said:
So it’s as I thought
wire 1 live
wire 2 down
wire 3 up
wire 4 light 💡
what I thought
I’ll have a look bit later on if I need relays or anything probably a good idea.👌
On a Defender it's -
Pin 1 - Earth
Pin 2 - Live feed
Pin 3 - Window up/down
Pin 4 - Window up/down
Pin 5 - Not used
Pin 6 - Illumination
On a Discovery-2 it's -
Pin 1 - Earth
Pin 2 - Not used
Pin 3 - Window up/down signal to BCU
Pin 4 - Window up/down signal to BCU
Pin 5 - Not used
Pin 6 - Illumination
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The wiring for Defender window switch connectors uses 5 out of the 6 terminals in the connector.
Also, as the Defender switches switch the window motors directly (i.e. - no relays or ECUs in the circuit), the live feed, the outputs to the motor, and the switch's earth, are wired in 2.0mm² cable, with just the switch's illumination in 0.5mm² (Red/Orange) cable.
The switches in your eBay picture are from a Discovery-2, which use the same switches and connectors as the Defender - however, in the discovery-2 the (front) window motors are controlled by the BCU, so only use 4 out of the 6 terminals.
The switches are wired to switch BCU signal wires to earth on 0.5mm² cables - so, will have to be replaced with 2.0mm² cables to be used in a Defender (I can supply suitable new terminals, or new terminals pre crimped to 2.0mm² cables, if you want them?).
Looking at that eBay listing, £50 is a bit steep for two old D2 switches and connectors (which will need a bit more spending to make them suitable for use in a Defender)
I will PM you an alternative.
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I meant to add that the prices of the Genuine gauges are eye-watering 😮
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The VDO Vision range compare visually to the TD5 VDO gauges -
VDO 350-010-008K
Pre-Td5, there are Genuine oil pressure gauges for 4-Cylinder - PRC7319
And PRC7320 for V8 -
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No, not the battery terminals - the fuse box terminals that supply battery power to the fuse box, and from the fuse box to the starter motor.
I re-posted your fuse box picture (above) with green arrows pointing to these M8 terminals.
The terminals on the D2 battery are sh!te - I replaced mine with these -
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26 minutes ago, Green200tdi said:
Hi sorry taken so long to get back to you been away,😊
I have four roof halogen 55w spot lights on a light bar wired in to two relays
so one relay per two spot lights.
In which case, I wouldn't use the ACE relay socket - as, the two permanently live terminals are 6.3mm and 4.8mm receptacles, which are a bit undersized for 4 x 55w lamps.
Also, poking male terminals into the socket receptacles, is a bit untidy and insecure.
A better solution would be to tap off one the fuse box's M8 battery terminals, using suitably sized cable and fuse -
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R14 - ACE relay.
Terminals 30 and 85 are permanent live, fed via F15 (15A).
What do you intend to run from it?
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They're Delphi (Aptiv) Weather Pack connectors.
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On 5/22/2024 at 10:04 PM, Don Del said:
I have a UK address that I can use for receiving shipments and I can make payments either by Visa or PayPal. I understand you sell as Land Rover Connectors on eBay. Is this your only outlet?
A UK address is good (and a lot cheaper!).
PayPal is my preferred way.
I do sell as LandRover-Connectors on eBay - but, dealing direct through the forum is easier and cheaper, as I don't have to factor in eBay's fees.
On 5/22/2024 at 10:04 PM, Don Del said:It is a four pin socket with the female socket attached to the engine harness
Yes, this one's the other way round, compared to all the others.
On 5/23/2024 at 12:33 AM, Don Del said:The connectors between the main harness and the engine harness are given as C0448/C0162 and C0449/C0203 and are 14 and 4 pins respectively. From the photographs in the Electrical Library the 4 pin connector looks like a BMW/AMP unit and the other connector is possibly a Sumitomo unit
The 4-way connectors C0449/C0203 are the same BMW connectors as C0378/C0392 (the connector face diagram for the male connector shown in the Electrical Library is incorrect. It shows a male 2-way MQS connector, as used for central locking and heated seats on the 2002→ TD5 and, 2007→ TDCi Defenders).
The 14-way connectors are from the same Sumitomo HW Sealed Series as the 6-way connectors on the main harness/chassis harness.
On 5/22/2024 at 10:04 PM, Don Del said:The black connector is clearly marked BMW and AMP
You can't buy these connectors from TE/AMP or BMW under the part numbers moulded on the connectors.
The TE/AMP part numbers are "Restricted" - i.e., only available to authorised users.
The BMW part numbers supercede to "Zero" coded, or universal connectors, that will mate with all keyway codes - these are identified by their "Waterblue" colour.
The male 4-way connector is - 61 13 8 367 075
The female 4-way connector is - 61 13 8 367 076
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The grey and green connectors are Sumitomo HW sealed series, the black one is a BMW (TE/AMP) 2.5mm sealed connector.
I can supply terminals and seals for the Sumitomo connectors, and will post the BMW part numbers for terminals and seals for the black connector.
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Terminals and seals for the female connector (main harness)
Female terminal, 0.5 – 1.5mm² – 61 13 1 376 202
Wire Seal, 0.5 – 1.0mm² – 61 13 1 383 789
Female terminal, 1.0 – 2.5mm² – 61 13 1 376 204
Wire Seal, 1.0 – 2.5mm² – 61 13 1 383 791
Female terminal, 2.5 – 4.0mm² – 61 13 1 376 206
Wire Seal, 4.0mm² – 61 13 8 352 924
Terminals and seals for the male connector (engine harness)
Male terminal, 0.5 – 1.5mm² – 61 13 1 376 191
Wire Seal, 0.5 – 1.0mm² – 61 13 1 383 789
Male terminal, 1.0 – 2.5mm² – 61 13 1 376 193
Wire Seal, 1.0 – 2.5mm² – 61 13 1 383 791
Male terminal, 2.5 – 4.0mm² – 61 13 1 376 195
Wire Seal, 4.0mm² – 61 13 8 352 924
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There's no dipstick for the auto transmission.
A popular mod. Is to fit the transmission sump pan and dipstick from the P38 Range Rover.
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7 hours ago, andy.cowman said:
Thanks @PaulMc could you please send out a spare 16 and 20 and the ends?
I think I pretty much have everything now - but I got distracted traipsing across the country yesterday! 270 miles in the defender.... I did pick up a rear seat for the 90 though, will see how we go fitting that in!
Posted off this afternoon 👍
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Let me know what you actually need, and I'll send you that, and refund the difference.
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1 hour ago, andy.cowman said:
@PaulMc I have made a right hash of the 20 pin connector! You might see my name again on eBay shortly 😂
Andy, PM me here if you need anything - it's cheaper than through eBay 😉
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I've just seen your purchase, request a cancellation of your order, and let me know on here, how many terminals you need.
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Those two connectors aren't used on EU vehicles.
They're C0670 and C0671, which are for the ignition/transmission interlock, fitted to NAS vehicles.
The connector wrapped in yellow/green tape is C0942, which is the "accessory power connector" for the optional navigation system.
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OK Stephen,
The connector that you're missing, is the 28-way connector on the RH side of your ECU.
The connectors are from the TE (AMP) 'Pair Mate' series (related to the 040 Multilock II Series).
The 28-way grey connector is TE part number 316019-6, which can be bought from Mouser -
Automotive Connectors 040 PAIR MATE PLUG HSG ASY 28P
Terminals
Tin plated, TE part number 175265-1, are available from Mouser, RS, and Farnell -
Automotive Connectors 040MLC SKT 22-18 CU/SN
TE Connectivity MULTILOCK 040 II Series Female Crimp Terminal, 22AWG Min, 18AWG Max
Gold plated, TE part number 175266-2, are available from DigiKey -
CONN SOCKET 18-22AWG CRIMP GOLD
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54 minutes ago, andy.cowman said:
Yes please! Will send it straight back and have a word with myself for cocking it up already !
I have ordered the other one.... Thanks!
Thanks for your additonal order, I'll get them in the post to you tomorrow.
To return the spare grey connector, just send it back in the box, with the bubble wrap, I sent both of them to you in.
My return address is on the rear of the box.
Just stick a blank label over your address, the postage label, and the Special Delivery label, and use a 1st or 2nd class Large Letter stamp (they go-up in price (AGAIN!) by 15p, from 2nd April ☹️ )
Don't bother with eBay's return process, it's too complicated, more expensive than it needs to be, and can't cope with a partial return.
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15 minutes ago, Stellaghost said:
@PaulMc do you do connectors for a lexis 1UZ ECU
Regards Stephen
I don't have them - but I'm sure I could identify them.
Looking on Google, there appears to be differences, depending on year of manufacture.
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16 minutes ago, andy.cowman said:
Ah I will need them as well!! So did I only need one of the two I already ordered?! And do I just need one of the one I haven't ordered?! Thanks Andy
Yes, you only need one of the 14-way grey connectors.
You also only need one of each of the black 16-way and 20-way connectors, which I sell as a set in my listing linked to above.
If you want to return the second grey connector - that's fine, I'll refund you for it.
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7 hours ago, andy.cowman said:
4 years later..... i am now about to do this!
It shouldn't be hard to see an improvement on my 200tdi as almost none of the panel of little bulbs work, the gauges are guesses at best! I managed to get some TD5 gauges which are in the post at the moment for £220. I think the only bit missing will be the plugs into the LED panel itself however you seem to be able to get the terminals on ebay for about £15 each now.
So yeh - here goes some wiring next week!
Hi Andy,
That's my listing on eBay 😀
I've posted the 2 x connector kits to you by RM Special Delivery.
The connectors you've bought, mate with the TD5 instrument harness.
The 16-way and 20-way connectors for the TD5 LED panel are here -
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151462720313
Regards,
Paul.
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The clamp 27H1193 was used on MGB and MGC, Late Sprite and Midget, as well as Mini from 1959 thru 1974
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That warning light panel was also fitted to the 50th Anniversary models -
Someone posted on https://www.defendersource.com/threads/test.117881/ pictures of their 50th Anniversary's binnacle,
which has a label inside showing a VDO and a Land Rover part number -
A poster on the Defender50th forum has a Japanese spec. 50th, which has slightly different VDO and Land Rover part numbers on its binnacle label -
"The dash fitted has an ID sticker with the following info - 50th Anniversary, VDO 96 041 018, LR YAC112500, 10/7/98"
https://www.defender50th.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=13002&highlight=#13002
These part numbers may be for the speedo - they may be for the warning light panel ?
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I can supply that connector (AFU3635) - or, if the connector housing is OK, just terminals and seals.
With that connector and the wire colours, that should be for your number plate light.
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Indicator stalks
in Defender Forum (1983 - 2016)
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I believe that the mountings are the same for both early column switches (as well as for the late 300Tdi/TD5/Puma type with the Sumitomo 6-way connector).
The wiring for the intermittent function isn't present on earlier vehicles - but can be added by using the later column switch with link harness PRC8295 and the intermittent wiper relay AMR2341.
PRC8295 is no longer available from Land Rover - however, Autosparks make a replacement - https://www.autosparks.co.uk/land-rover-defender-90-110-intermittent-wiper-wiring-harness
A couple of threads on this subject -
https://forums.lr4x4.com/topic/927-adding-intermittent-washwipe-to-older-90110/
https://forums.lr4x4.com/topic/68527-intermittent-front-wipers/
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