Dlander

Had a great weekend some videos have been posted on my Facebook page of me testing the megasquirt

Bookings are coming in for this event, please can anyone who is thinking of coming please get in touch so we can have a good idea of numbers Bookings can be made through www.7Sisters.co.uk The v8 megasquirted dlander will be there for those that have been following the rebuild on facebook Rich

Hi some of you know I have been fitting a V8 to the Dlander following the demise of yet another oil burner. (I will post a build thread at some point with some pictures). Anyone who has seem me out in the truck will know i might need a bit of waterproofing, so the only way to go is megasquirt and EDIS. I have been having some trouble but have solved them now and I promiosed Nige that i would post some details here so others can make of it what they will. I am using a relay board due to the lack of any wiring loom for a petrol engine fuel relays etc. and MS1 V3 ecu, I have also had addition work on the ecu to run a fan relay which switches on the return. Got the whole kit from Nige (www.megasquirt-v8.co.uk) who i have to say has been very helpful and a great support as has Fridge Freezer who modded the ecu for me. Ok so I fitted it all, and apart from a couple of teething problems got the motor running, but thats when the problems started. Shortly after getting it going the engine started to run very lumpy and very rich the coolant temperature and the manifold temperature both started reading -40C, then the engine cut out and died no amount of turning over would get it to start again. The TPS had lost its settings and thought it was wide open on cranking so wouldnt fire the injectors. Some phone calls and Nige sent me the readings for all the sensors. Out with the multimeter and started taking measurements at the CT and MAT sensors, and the TPS which was sending 5v back down the ground wire, FF tells me is what it should do, and that it should then go through an earth on pin 19 of the DB37 lead to the ecu. so on checking the leads all this was happening correctly. But if i removed all the ground wires for the CT MAT and TPS and sent them directly to ground they all worked fine. Great, but then it just moved the problem on, as then the fuel air ratio stopped working and the O2 reading went west as well. All this was getting me a tad frustrated and i nearly pushed the truck outside and set light to it. Instead I drank a bottle of red and set about searching the net for some solutions. It would appear that there has been some difficulties with wiring relay boards and grounds. The main earth from the board says it should go to engine ground, and all the others go back to the relay board and then on to the ecu. (with all the wires connected on the 37 pin lead except 25,27,29,31 as these are not needed). This was exactly what i had done and all was checking out. The lambda has the two ground wires, one is for the heater and the other the sensor. The heater was earthed in the engine bay the other i had taken back to the relay board and used the spare earth in the PWM relay slot. This I copied from Sam's instal post on here. For some reason this was what was causing the problems in my set up. After reading some forums for Japanese cars I came across someone who was having similar symptoms to me, and had got so fed up with it he had dumped the relay board and connected everything back to the ecu which then cured his problems, but in his post he said he had earthed the lambda to the engine and the ECU to the battery. This got me thinking about the lambda wires. I swapped the engine earth to the lamda and the battery earth to the relay board and voila it all works as it should........ Dont ask me why I have no idea, all i know is i've had it running in the workshop all afternoon without a problem. Berore anyone asks there are three new braided earth cables from chassis to engine and the battery earths to chassis are all good. Also to give everyone a laugh...... in my lack of confidence in myself i thought i must have the DB37 wired the wrong way round so swapped all the wires over and guess what - it wasnt so had to swap them back again. Anyone who has wired up one of thses leads will know what a complete PITA they are -- to do it twice is just stupid! Anyway thanks to Nige and FF for thier understanding and support, now i can fininsh putting the truck back together and get it down for an MOT after Easter so i can then get on with tuning it ready for Summer Sisters in Wales in June

Hi I'm putting a v8 in the Dlander and I want to move the engine forward so it sits in its normal position in the chassis currently the r380 gearstick is in the correct position with the 300tdi engine 10 inches back from its normal position running modified props. Because the v8 will need plugs changing access will be a problem if its 10 inches back. Also it would be nice to be able to run standard propshafts Here's the problem if I put the v8 in its correct position it will presumably move the gear lever 10 inches forward and put it under the dash. Has anyone played with the selector unit that hangs off the back of the p38 box and can this be made to fit a disco r380? Does anyone have one that they would donate to the cause or sell really cheaply so I can play? Cheers Richard

Anyone off the forum going?

Any news? as ours not arrived yet

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We will be there with the camel on the camel stand. @landroversforever As far I know SHIRES are not having a stand there this year, but I think they are planning to have one at Land Rover MAX though. Rich

As someone who regularly uses,has slept in, and lived in tents since I was eight, the best all round tent material is canvas not man made materials hence why most popular roof tents are expensive but they keep out light as well as the weather. Aside from the tent/ground debate, the vango airbeam has to use its origional pump because the valves wont accept normal airline fittings, also the beams are only inflated to 5psi (from their data sheet) which most off the shelf compressor systems will not be able to cope with as it is too low. While Vango say it will cope with gusts up to 75mph, I would like to see the test where this figure was calculated. 5psi is not much to provide regidity across an arch. Oh and if anyone is interested I have an easyawn touring roof tent on my camel and we use it most weekends we can get away, and for all our holidays in all weathers. In fact when we got married the new wife when asked if she wanted to spend the first night of her honymoon in a hotel or in the roof tent chose the rooftent. Its all a matter of personal taste but for us it works great. Hope what you decide works for you all the best Rich

Grip was no problem, there was more water on Saturday but less on Sunday but the hidden rocks made picking your way carefully quite important there are some videos on you youtube i will try to post below; Thanks to Muddyrice for the solonoid so i had a winch on sunday. Was a fantastic weekend and great to catch up with those that i usually only see once year. Cant wait for september Rich Dlander

Any news on where they are? Cheers Rich

Nige have sent PM

Two hoodies please one for me and one for the missus hers wil be medium and mine XL Will collect at the event Cheers Rich

For anyone doing London to brighton from Hampshre or Dorset who want to travel up together for the weekend Shire's will be meeting at Winchester Services on the M3 at about eleven on Saturday 25th. Club members or not all welcome to join in. Richard

Glad to hear that you are ok, the chap who kindly offered to take you to the hospital was Tim, I cant really give out peoples details but I can pass on your contact details to him and ask him to get in touch or ask if he minds me giving you his details. Let me know. Richard (Chair of Vice ShireLRC)

Hi There We ae going back to the showcaves this year as those that attended seem to prefer them to the site we used last year. The information packs will be sent out by e-mail on the monday before the event, I would say if people want to attend can they get the bookings in as soon as possible. The website is http://www.shirelrc.com/7S/ The booking form is up, we are again offering the opportunity to attend withour booking camping if you want to make your own arrangements. It is a great weekend and I am really looking forward to it as I missed last year due to a family wedding. Many thanks Richard Vice Chair Shire LRC

We are going taking the camel this year though, if any SHires members are planning to go we are meeting at winchester services at 11.00 am on the saturday. if you are shire member please see the post on shires forum at http://www.shirelrc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=688&p=1843#p1843 Richard (vice chair)

The photo of the white one earlier in the thread is mine it is a disco chassis with modified rear cross member, you do not need to have it SVA'd i took it to portsmouth DVLA and asked them to look at it, and advise me as to what to do next, they said it only needed a VIC check and they even completed the forms for me and within two weeks sent me a new log book detailing a different model from the origional log book. Simple really, but honesty is the best policy, it is difficult for them to come backl to me if i have followed their advice. its been on the road for about three years now, and has travelled extensively across europe, i have been stopped many times by police in the uk and abroad, never any issues with paperwork usually its to ask what the f*** it is ! It will be off the raod at the end of the year though, i think its time to look at replacing the 300tdi with somthing a little more interesting mmmmm (I have a camel 110 for my holidays now so the Dlander can now be just a toy)

Done mine today, i have been on about this for ages and even discussed it with GLASS reps at Gaydon two years ago about why no one was having a go at retaining one of the countries most popular byways. I am really glad to see that Mark has taken up the challenge. Good on him, and I wish him well.

Here is a couple of mine........... Well it is a disco underneath

Got one of those four button loda controllers on the dlander and its fab you can operate both winches at the same time from in front or behind the truck, because of this i have mounted the reciever on the rear bulkhead behind the passenger seat, so it sits in the middle of the truck. Not had any problems with reception and would highly recommend them. No water ingress probs at all even with dropping it in the strata florida! I run allbright waterproof solenoids and a pair of 8274's the front one having a twin motor conversion.

I will be there with the dlander giving it a bit of testing before the shires trip to lapland, stickers for the event look good

Hi there are quite a few pictures of the work I have done on the prototype dlander once I got it off Shaun, you can find them here http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopi...&hl=dlander I have to say that I have been very please with the package and it has done all that I have wished to to do. I have fitted steel doors so I can have full opening windows. If anyone wants to pm me for further details let me know. I dont work for North or have any connection with them apart from being a customer. I am plainning for the truck to be at Eastnor show and at Billing, so if your there come over and say hi.

Having completed the only dlander in existence at the moment, i would stick with the landrover runnning gear from the donor car. it allowed me to avoid all thins SVA and the truck only needed a VIC it runs 300tdi with all the goodies to make it quick no water problems is now got its internal snorkle and pulls over the speed limit if you are so inclined.

Is that cos its always in bits in the garage? :hysterical: