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  1. It's was -7 on Saturday. Tried the new startup tip pressing start with the break pressed & no engine. Could see the glow plug light on for about 3secs, then go off. Then started engine with normal clutch down and it started first time. So it looks like that works fine. I did speak to the garage again. They could look at the glowplugs but it's a couple of hours work because of the stripping down (inlet manafold etc) , and would be chargable if no fault is found. Asked about software upgrade, they said that's chargable and not covered on the warranty. Not very helpful Guy Salmon Knutsford. They said there was no way of checking glow plugs without striping down to get access to them. The battery has been tested a couple of times and passed. The garage started going on about how the battery needed to spot on to start these cars? I wouldn't of thought that the LR would be so sensitive based on their heritage.
  2. Hello I was hoping someone can help me out with a FL2 starting problem. I've own a 07 plate FL2 2.2d Manual for 10months and love it. This is my first posting on this site. However I've had starting problems a few times over the winter period, both times on really cold days. First time in Novemeber (some -deg temp) , the engine was cranking but not starting. I left it an hour and then tried again (a little warmer) and it started but missfired a little for a few seconds then ran normally. The last was boxing day and it measured -13 so very cold, again it was craking, but not firing. I appreciate that this is freak weather, but it's annoying that a standard 10yrs old vauxaull diesel starts next to me on it's first turn. I've notice that the colder it is the longer the delay before cranking. Which I understand is correct operation of the engine management system and glow plugs. Once it's started it's fine. On a normal cold day 0deg it starts after the time delay and runs fine. I am only aware of seeing the glow plug warning flash up once during starting in 10months. The last time it didn't start was on boxing day, so I got the LR assistance people out. They managed to start it with a high power battery. My battery passed the full test, but just lost some power through me trying to start it a number of times. The car was previously used on Christmas eve for 2hr journey, and then unsed on Xmas day. They put the problem down to glow plugs. It went in to the local LR dealer this week, they kept it overnight and did tests, however they said it was fine, no problems with battery or no system errors. I was told by the service guy 'we see this on a few Freelanders, and our recommendation is to press the start button without the clutch being depressed. The engine management should start, and the glow plugs heat up (with the glow plug light illuminated), when the light goes out start the engine normally'. I'm not sure if I'm being fobbed off, or is this a genuine solution to starting problems on FL2? The FL manual mentions nothing about this proceedure, or pre heating of glow plugs. I understand under normal starting (with clutch depressed) the delay is the time the for the glow plugs to heat up. So my view is that it's a fault because it's not starting as designed. I'm not that confident about this solution, especially that it goes out of warranty in March and propably won't have severe cold weather until next winter. Any help would be appreciated.
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