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  1. I've been gathering up the looms to carry out the conversion and I'm looking for some info.

    I have, the main(bulkhead),chassis,RH front wing/LH front wing/ battery to underseat fuse box link wire.

    I have traced and labelled everything common to the "standard" wiring ie lighting/ew/cdl/HFS/HRS and all the switchgear. The only missing items are the difflock switch, reverse light switch and speedo transducer connections.

    The difflock, transducer and reversing light multiplugs are definitely not on my chassis or main (bulkhead) loom. A search on the forums suggest it's fed from the engine loom and there also appears to be a link harness AMR5725 which has the speedo transducer connection. AMR5725 has an ecu multiplug, two 2pin plugs (similar to those on the ABS leads) and two econoseal type multiplugs, with a large grommet fitted.

    In order to utilise the "whole" td5 setup I will need an engine loom and the above link harness....I think....can anyone confirm this? I know most of the engine harness will be defunct unless connected to a td5, as are the ABS systems. I think it would possibly be easier to knock up a patch loom for the difflock/reversing switches, and I already have the econoseal plug for the speedo transducer.

    Following the wiring diagrams for the td5 seems to back this up, the transducer, difflock and reversing light wires all pass to multiplug C0162 which contains the oil pressure, alternator and other engine warning light feeds (14 way plug). They then pass to their respective multiplugs.

    I'm going cross eyed looking at wiring diagrams.....

  2. Which type of 70a relay are you using for a 3 tab screen? I've had a look about and can find 4pin ones but the only 5 pin 70a ones I've found are changeover relays. Did you just splice/piggy back for the second feed off the 4pin one?

    I have a spare td5 loom and was going to use this to rob another 40a relay/mount and give each element it's own relayed supply

  3. Thanks Les. I've ordered a cable tray so that should arrive tomorrow. I wasn't too keen on drilling the chassis but needs must. At the moment my fuel lines are cable tied through existing holes to the top of the chassis and if I was completely honest I wasn't too happy with this arrangement.

    Need to break the news to the wife that I'm buying another seatbox....lol

  4. External for me

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    I put stainless basket tray (free from work) on top od the chassis, all the cables, brake llines, air line all just sit inside and ty-rapped in place, you can just see it on the RH of pic

    How did you mount the basket tray to the chassis? Did you drill and rivnut and use the basket mounts?

    I have the old loom now removed and have got all the multiplugs tagged up (I think). Waiting on my front LHS wing loom to appear, battery to underseat fusebox cable is on order. So just the RHS front loom, rear door loom and engine loom to procure.

    The loom upgrade has as always led to another set of choices. With regards to the seat box, my 90 no longer has the side mount tank and with the upgrade to td5 looms this is ideal. I have new end panels for my old seat box with the drivers side freshly riveted on and the passengers side cleco pinned together

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    My current train of thought is to stop refurbing the tdi seatbox and and source a td5 one, transferring the new ends to this as most appear to be corroded on the ones I've looked at. This would then give me suitable ecu/fusebox locations and almost factory spec. I realise the transmission tunnel mount needs swapped, so carefully removing the td5 one ( and keep for swapping back over) and refit the 200 version.

    I did look into the YRM battery and toolbox kits as I had considered these when the loom upgrade wasn't on the cards, the td5 box is the more cost effective option though.....yes I mentioned cost effective on a defender rebuild! That'll be the last...honest

  5. The factory fitted relay is 40A

    It's not clear from Microcat for the TD5 Defender, as it doesn't specify which relay does what.

    But, for the Puma Defender, Microcat specifies each relay's function and, for the heated windscreen, the relay is - YWB500060

    This is the same relay used for several other functions and, if you look it up, it's specified as a 40A relay -

    http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/17158/99/YWB500060-40AMP-RELAY.html

    http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/YWB500060G.cfm

    As you have signs of burning at the relay socket, it will need changing anyway, so you might as well change it for a 70A relay and socket, with dual feeds to suit your heated screen.

    .

    Thanks Paul. I'll fire off an order for some goodies
  6. Just read through this, I have a 3 terminal HFS to go into my 90, and have a 2006 td5 XS loom to fit too. I've labelled and traced most of the multiplugs/wiring and it looks as though I only have a two wire setup for the screen. (Black wire at one side, purple/slate 4mm2 at the other).

    I traced back through the looms to the relay for the HFS and this has a non OE spec 40a 4 pin relay installed ... What I did notice was signs of overheating on the rear multiplug. Should this have a 70amp relay fitted here? Looking at the multiplug it won't accommodate the larger blade connectors as fitted to the 70a relays I have looked at. I had a look on the ruskie microcat and the LR workshop parts catalogue but can't seem to find the rating for this.

    I have the timer as part of the OE loom so would it be advisable to upgrade the switching relay this while the loom is on the floor with dual feeds and a 70a relay/multiplug?

  7. Well, the eBay gods have been kind, I now have winging my way a td5 xs main/bulkhead loom and a rear loom. I already have the td5 door looms.

    I had given up on the idea of the upgrade as decent 300 or even late blade style 200 looms were making strong money and was resigned to tweaking the existing.

    So, what are the thoughts on internal or external running of the chassis loom? At the moment the old loom is run per factory inside the chassis rail, but I've seen a fair few on here that have kept them on the top of the rail. I can see the benefit of fault finding and modifying if need be when place on top , whereas the only good part about it being run internally is the protection afforded by the box section.

  8. I was just happy to find a pair of doors that weren't completely shot! Still cost a pretty penny for a pair of td5 doors, they did come with wind deflectors ,e/w and Central locking although the alloy skins have a fair few dents, with only mild rust on the inner frames. Going by the loom dates they are 03 so not bad for 10yrs. Strangely enough there is no evidence of electrolytic corrosion on the skins.

  9. Thanks Rob, finding a defender in a breakers up in SW Scotland is a rarity, even ones that are total loss seem to be bought entirely and rebuilt.

    I've done a 200 to 300tdi loom swap when the bulkhead got swapped on the farm 110 pickup (it came with the bulkhead). I just wish now that I kept the loom from the 300tdi pickup donor....hindsight is a wondrous thing!

  10. Having looked extensively on loads of forums over the last few weeks regarding bulkheads, the tdci is the hardest to convert for use as a "standard" replacement. The major differences are:

    Dash is completely different, therefore the old style will not fit without modifications

    Heaterbox/matrix etc is also completely different

    No airvents

    Fly by wire throttle

    Wiper mechanism

    Wiring loom

    Gearbox tunnel opening

    Anything can be made to fit with enough, cutting welding and know how....a TD5 bulkhead would be the best bet

  11. Thanks for the advice.

    After looking for and pricing up the missing looms from the td5 setup it's not a very cost effective option, sourcing mismatched looms from eBay is a gamble and still isn't cheap. Ideally a complete donor vehicle would give up its wiring innards but I haven't the patience to wait!

    I think the 300 option is one to look into and may be more readily available

    Cheers

  12. I'm currently rebuilding my 200tdi and after spending countless hours fitting new footwells/a-pillars/feet I discovered the bulkhead had a bit of a twist (explains the mountain of cataloy in both the a-pillars).

    So, I sourced an early td5 bulkhead which I'm sending off to galv, but would like some thoughts on using the td5 loom.

    I only have the bulkhead loom (ymc000550) which is a non-abs loom with alarm . I got the dash less instrument cluster ( I have one and all the appropriate parts thanks to retroanacondas guide), but I don't have the the ecu or any other td5 based looms to go with it.

    My current loom is the old glass fuse model and I was going to replace the fuse box with a new blade type one if it was to be re-used, as well as adding the ancillary wiring for the e/w, cdl,heated front screen and seats, replacing the dodgy bullet connectors for new econoseal type ones as I go.

    So, with future upgrades in mind (ie a td5 engine at some point?), would sourcing a td5 chassis loom as well as the front and rear lighting looms be a wise upgrade? My new doors have leccy windows and central locking, plug and play would have been nice but not essential as these aren't the hardest to wire up.

    I have read Les Brock's rebuild thread comprehensively (stunning detail) and it's something similar wiring-wise I would like, I realise Les has the entire loom and ecus though.

    It would have been ideal to get the whole wiring setup with the bulkhead but I was just glad to get a solid one!

    Thoughts, opinions and advice welcome

    Scott

  13. Old thread reprisal here.....

    Similar to the original post, I have a new rad with the o-ring style adapters at the oil cooler end, I removed the flared adapters from the original rad with a view to swapping them over but there's no way the factory fit ones in the new rad are coming out without breaking or shearing.

    So after the usual trawling for info I bought the ESR1912/13 pipes as listed for the 200tdi....but they have o-ring ( metric) ends for the oil filter housing too so I have just moved the issue to the other end of the pipe!

    Looking at the parts diagram it lists nrc8618 with a crush washer to fit into the housing, however looking at images of the part it doesn't have the recess for an o-ring but is a female flare (conical) fitting. My original pipes are flared and screw directly into the filter housing without the need for adapters. Anyone know if you can get an adapter to fit?

    I assume that the OP didn't have an issue at the filter head? Any help greatly appreciated

  14. Hi guys, I'm looking for some opinions on the wear of my output shaft on the gearbox.

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    It's by no means as bad as some of the pictures I've seen on here. I have my transfer box in bits to repair the difflock selector, and will be ordering the rebuild kit as well as a cross drilled input gear for the lt230.

    With the transfer box input gear on the rear of the box I have about 2mm play, however if I reverse the input gear so the "unworn" side of the spline engages on the gearbox I have very little (less than 1mm) play. Buying 2nd hand is a lottery, so rebuild or refurb are my options if its needed. . With a cross drilled input gear fitted will the wear on the gearbox shaft be minimised? It's a "H" suffix box.

    Any thoughts or opinions appreciated.

  15. I am currently rebuilding my 90 onto a Marsland Chassis. This has the td5 rear crossmember and per the very helpful people at Marsland a 110 td5 towbar is required due to the 110 towbar bracing arms bolting onto the chassis.

    I am in the process of fitting the td5 tank to get rid of the old rusty side tank and the 110 style bracing arms will foul the tank due to the more direct angle to attach to the inner face of the chassis rails. I've looked at numerous pics of td5 90 towbars and only found one OE image that has the curved drop brackets to clear the tank but most of the other suppliers (witter/thule etc) do not. They just seem to have the slightly bent bracing arms that would lead to the outer face of the chassis and onto the brackets as shown in the pic below

    http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sawoodburn/media/91E1DB81-0EFA-418E-B950-A58E8B6EDE2F-503-000001B402B4DFC4_zps2e95d918.jpg.html'>91E1DB81-0EFA-418E-B950-A58E8B6EDE2F-503

    anyone know if these are available separately?

  16. Sorry to go off topic, but where did you get your brackets? I'm sticking the td5 tank with the ROW sender into my 200tdi rebuild and have temporarily fabricated up some to hold the cradle, but the standard td5 items welded to the chassis look a lot heavier duty... albeit I'm not going to weld to my lovely new galv chassis.

    I've e-mailed Richards Chassis but not had a response.

  17. I am at the stage of doing a chassis swap myself. I had done one in the past with a similar ethos to you...quick changeover and re-use as much as possible. This was a 110 pickup, so it was logical to break it down into front/middle/rear in terms of bodywork removal. Axles were swapped, bushes were replaced as were the brake lines.

    It was however a means to an end and my current swap will take as long as necessary with most parts being restored or refurbed or replaced if possible. I always regret not getting the time to do the 110 the way I wanted and every time it comes back for a pre-MOT check I shake my head.

    Not everyone has the luxury of the time and space to do long rebuilds, I think your 80hour target is achievable if its a "swapover" job.

    I debated between Marsland and Richards, Marsland chassis are built the same as standard LR with weld seams top and bottom joining the 2 C channels (2mm), Richards are built from 4separate plates and are 3mm....so 1/3 heavier prior to galvanising.

    I opted for Marsland, very good to deal with and couldn't be more helpful on the phone.....it arrived today

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  18. really interested in what the more experienced re-builders say on this. Like the OP I too have a rotten 200tdi bulkhead requiring footwells and tops but don't know if its better to repair original and pump full of waxoyl, repair original and get dipped or find a good td5 donor.

    There have been a few puma ones crop up recently for reasonable money.

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