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Oh, and you were doing so well too, you hadn't posted complete nonsense for some time. Driving style can indeed influence the lifespan of a gearbox, however it is down to basic physics and engineering whether a specific gearbox will survive behind a given engine or not. There is a wealth of information out there, some basic research will reveal what other people are using and what has been tried and tested. I will not for one second dispute that the 200tdi is a very good, reliable and simple lump - and that it will indeed do the job. However, it is a little antiquated now and IMHO somewhat lacking in power for this application. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that it will have to do the job because that's what's lying about, but I wouldn't be sticking with it long term. The merc conversion (in its various guises) is a good option, I've seen many comp trucks running it in Europe and its can be made into a very simple (entirely mechanical) and very powerful (250bhp) unit indeed. However, you need to move out of the Dark Ages Dave and finally admit that the Td5 is not the anti-christ. It too can be made into a very simple, reliable and more than adequately powerful lump. There are a significant number of these engines out there with 250k+ miles on them, and literally 1000's with 100k+ miles, surely this proves their worth? Add in the number being used successfully in top flight competition trucks and this only strengthens the argument. Please understand that I do not view them as the be all and end all of engines, but I do occasionally feel the need to stand up for them in the face of abuse from those stuck firmly in the past. I had no intention to write as much as I have, maybe I'm just having a bad day, but I couldn't help myself. Awesome build Mike, we've spoken about it a lot anyway, as ever if there's anything I can help with just shout. Ross

In my experience of European events, there is only 1 main way to cut costs and that is to 'share', although this is not without risk. In particular, if you can share transport costs (get multiple trucks taken out there by 1 wagon, done this before, works well), spare parts stock and service crew then this will see the costs reduce radically. The risks are obvious so there needs to be a well thought-out, unanimously agreed plan but it can work. Ross

Had some decent interest from forum members which is good to see, event is shaping up nicely. Anymore for anymore? Ross

Here's all the details on the event, apologies for the formatting, it won't let me attach the Word document. PM me if you want entry forms email'd to you. 7 separate phases culminating in a Dusk Navigation, not one to be missed! Ross 1. Announcement. The British Army Motorsports Association (BAMA) is to promote a single venue, multi-phase cross country navigation event to be known as Roadmaster 2013. The event will be run on a part of the Home Counties Training Area and be based at Longmoor Training Area (entrance SU WNW 785 319) off the A325, 2.37 miles SSW of Bordon. The event is clubman status for crews of two people in 4x4 vehicles which are insured and taxed for on road use. The event will take place on 22 Dec 13. The event will be a round in the BAMA 4x4 Championship. 2. Jurisdiction. The event will be run under rules incorporating and governed by the General Regulations of the Motor Sports Association (MSA) incorporating the provisions of the National Sporting Code of the FIA, these Additional Supplementary Regulations (ASRs) and any written instructions that the organizing committee may issue for the event. 3. Authorization. An MSA Permit has been granted No 79657 and will be displayed at signing on. A licence to use MoD property has also been applied for and will, similarly, be displayed. 4. Eligibility. The event is open to members of the following associations and clubs: BAMA Association of Land Rover Clubs Blue Light Off Road Club Cheltenham and Cotswold Rover Owners Club CSMA Club 4x4 Group Devizes & District Motor Club Dorset Land Rover Club Exmouth Motor Club Hants & Berks Land Rover Owners Club Metropolitan Police Motor Club Peak and Dukeries Land Rover Club Salisbury & Shaftesbury Car Club Shire Land Rover Club Thames Valley 4x4 Club Yorkshire Off Road Club and any other club which applies for an invitation, subject to MSA rules. 5. Times. Event HQ (SU 798 309) will open at 0700 hrs Sunday 22 Dec 13. The following times apply (times are UTC): a. Scrutineering 0700-0800 b. Signing on 0700-0815 (any competitor not signed on by 0815 could be excluded and their place allocated to a reserve) c. Marshals’ briefing 0730 d. Crew briefing 0815 (this is mandatory for at least one crew member per vehicle) e. Car 0 on course 0900 (successive vehicles will start at one minute intervals) f. Prizegiving 1600 (approximately) 6. Route. The route will be on various surfaces from very loose off road to quite hard tracks of varying surfaces. The distance will vary by route selection but is not likely to exceed 50 miles. Route instructions will be given at the start time for each competitor at the start of each phase and could be in any or all of the following forms, or a combination thereof: a. Grid references. b. Aerial imagery. c. Photocopy maps. d. Sketch maps. e. Verbal instructions. f. Trace. g. Tulip diagrams. 7. Identification. Competing vehicles will be identified by small numbers to be placed in the lower nearside wind screen and lower nearside rear screen (if fitted). These numbers are to be removed at the end of the event and prior to returning to the public highway. 8. Teams. In addition to entering as individuals, crews may join with one other crew to form a team. There will be an additional fee of £5 to cover team entry. This is payable prior to starting. 9. Competing Vehicles. All competing vehicles must have four wheels and should be capable of engaging all four to drive at once. Vehicles are to be essentially standard and no special vehicles are permitted. What is a special will be decided by the organizers, but will include fire engines and ambulances. Whilst modified vehicles are permitted it must be accepted that, to retain the navigation essence of the event, offroad racers and similar vehicles are discouraged. Challenge type vehicles are not, in this regard, considered as racers. If in doubt, please consult the Clerk of the Course (Bernie Stevens 07 775 753 763) before entering. The maximum size of vehicle should be about the size of a long wheelbased Land Rover. Crews are required to use seat belts and be in forward facing seats at all times when moving on the Training Area. Smoking in vehicles is prohibited whist competing and care should be taken at all times on this area due to the risk from discarded munitions. 10. Speed. All competitive sections have been set for an average speed of 10 mph. The maximum speed permitted on the training area is 20 mph. A ‘speed gun’ will be in operation throughout the event. See paragraphs 17 and 25. 11. Entries. The maximum number of entries will be thirty (30), however five (5) reserves will be allowed and given places if any other entry fails either to turn up or to meet entry conditions. The entry list opens on publication of these ASRs and closes at 0800 hrs 22 Dec 13. Entries will only be accepted via a completed official entry form, email is acceptable although confirmatory signatures will be required at signing on. There are two methods of payment; cash or cheque on the day or cheque with entry. Cheques must be made to Central Bank SEME and crossed “A/C payee”. Only entries on the official form, attached, will be accepted. 12. Seeding. Entries will be seeded by the Clerk of the Course to prevent team entries running in convoy. 13. Fees. Entry fee is £50 per crew for non-BAMA or £45 for BAMA members. 14. Results. Provisional results will be published in accordance with H 35.1 et seq. Printed results sheets will not be available to individuals. Results will be posted on a notice board at event HQ as soon as practicable following the completion of each phase. The end of competition results will be posted as soon as practicable after the last phase. They will be declared final, subject to there being no protests, 30 minutes later. The organizers reserve the right to delete the results of individual phases from the final results at their discretion. Should this arise, the reason will be made known to competitors. (See paragraphs 17 and 25 for penalties.) 15. Prizes. The following prizes are likely to be presented, subject to the number of entries: a. 1st overall two awards. b. 2nd overall two awards. c. 3rd overall two awards. d. 1st team six awards. e. Best marshals two awards. 16. Documentation. The following documents are to be presented at signing on: a. An in date club membership card. b. Current driver’s licence for any competitor intending to drive. c. Current certificate of insurance. MoD vehicles must have a FMT 1001 signed by MTO. d. Current certificate of a DfT test. 17. General Regulations. All general regulations will apply, modified as follows: a. Excessive noise, 2nd time of exceeding the notified speed limits, driving or behaving in a manner which is deemed detrimental to the good reputation of the sport: Exclusion - Judge of fact. b. Excessive damage to a vehicle: Exclusion - Judge of fact. c. Receiving outside assistance: Exclusion - Judge of fact. d. Breach of regulations as defined: Exclusion - Judge of fact. e. Entering an out of bounds area: Exclusion - Judge of fact. f. Not complying with an instruction for which no penalty is specified, provided that a warning is given: 10 points - Any official. g. Drivers. Only the driver nominated on the entry form may drive on competitive phases. Any other person who drives must be hold a licence as though the vehicle were being driven on the public highway: Exclusion - Any official. 18. Fuel. Vehicles should be capable of travelling about 50 miles without refuelling. Refuelling is not permitted within Longmoor Training Area or camp. There are garages in the area, the nearest being at Bordon or at Liphook services on the A3. 19. Scrutineering. Vehicles will comply with the technical regulations. Whilst it appreciated that suitable tyres are sensible, really agressive tyres are discouraged. The most aggressive needed are MT. The route has been traversed quite safely using AT tyres and if you are unsure please call the Clerk of the Course before entering. The Chief Scrutineer will advise the Clerk of the Course as to whether a vehicle may start or not. The decision of the Clerk of the Course is final and not subject to protest. All vehicles are to carry the following equipment at all times whilst competing: a. Warning triangle. b. Shovel or spade. c. First aid kit. d. Tow rope, this must be non-kinetic. Additional ropes, of any type, may be carried. Winches may be used with care if absolutely necessary. e. D shackle (stamped with the SWL appropriate for weight of the vehicle). This can be a ‘JATE’ ring. f. Fire extinguisher, at least 1 Kg. g. Reflective waistcoat or jacket (1 per crew member). h. Small spill kit (these are available on line or at local auto factors). i. Rubbish bag of at least 25 litre capacity. Do not ditch rubbish on the area! 20. Service Crews. Service crews are not permitted. Outside assistance is an offence. 21. Electronic devices. The following devices are forbidden, on pain of exclusion: a. Radio transmitters/receivers other than those designed for receiving public broadcasts. b. Satellite derived position indicating devices. c. Distance measuring device, other than that fitted as standard during manufacture. d. Speed calculating device other than that fitted as standard during manufacture. e. To remain within the spirit of the event the use of portable telephones to communicate with other vehicles, except in an emergency, is forbidden. 22. General Administration. a. Dress. Police and military personnel competing in service vehicles are expected to wear uniform. Santa Claus hats are optional for all crews!! b. Equipment. All crews should bring pens, pencils, hi-lighter pens, tracing paper or acetate sheet, a map magnifier and a romer. c. Accommodation. No accommodation is available at Longmoor Camp. Service personnel should contact Bordon Garrison transit accomodation staff in this regard. d. Food. A catering facility will be on site from 0630 hrs 22 Dec 13. There is no service messing. Claims may be submitted on JPA in accordance with current regulations for Service representative sport with the concurrance of unit budget holders. JSP 752 refers. Army personnel should refer to AGAI Chap 5. e. H&S. An authorized H&S specialist will carry out a full H&S Risk Assessment, prior to the event. f. Raffle. The potential exists that a raffle will be run to support a charity. Details will be in the Final Instructions. 23. Competitive Phases: a. Phase 1 - Trial. A short neutral section will lead crews to the Trial. This will be a RTV trial. Crews must follow the instructions given by marshals. Marshals will enter penalties on time card 1. b. Phase 2 - Orienteering. This uses an orienteering map marked with the control locations. Controls must be visited in the correct order but with competitors choosing the route. There will be an orienteering kite at each control and competitors will be required to punch the correct box on time card 2. A crew member may be required to dismount to punch cards. Manned Secret Controls (MSCs) will be established to ensure compliance. c. Phase 3 - Sequential. Crews will be provided with a photocopied map with the location of controls marked. The direction in which the control must be passed is also marked. Controls must be visited in the correct sequence. There will be a code board at each control. The letter must be entered in the correct box on time card 3. MSCs will be established to ensure compliance. d. Phase 4 - Lunch Break. There will be a compulsory halt of one hour for lunch. Time may not be made up at the lunch halt. e. Phase 5 - Navigation Medley. Crews will be given a set route to follow presented in various forms. Route checks will be established to ensure crews remain on route, code letters must be entered in the next box on time card 5. f. Phase 6 - Scatter. This will require competitors to visit as many ‘search points’ as possible in the time allowed. The information for this phase will be presented as an aerial image pre-marked with the points to visit. They can be visited in any order by any route but code letters must be entered in the correct box on time card 6. g. Phase 7 - Dusk Navigation. This phase will consist of a series of short sections with the route being handed out prior to each section. The presentation will take various forms (see paragraph 6). The correct route must be followed and RC will be established to ensure compliance. Code boards should be marked in the next empty box on time card 7. 24. Lateness. There will be no penalty free lateness. Crews will be required to start competitive sections on their due time. Crews may book in early without penalty but may not start the next phase until their due time. Manned controls will close 1 minute after the due time of the last car. 25. Penalties. In addition to those already shown in paragraph 17, the following will apply: a. All phases Missing a code board/orienteering kite 1 point b. All phases Exceeding time allowed for a phase 2 points per minute c. All phases Not providing proof of visiting a TC 10 points d. All phases Wrong DOA or DOD 1 point per offence e. Phase 2 Wrong box punched on time card 1 point per box f. Phases 3 & 6 Wrong box marked on time card 1 point per box g. Phase 3 Passing a RC in the wrong direction 1 point per offence h. Trial Hitting a cane penalties on the cane Stopping on course penalties on the cane i. Speeding 1st offence 10 points 2nd offence Exclusion 26. Entry Forms. It is necessary to provide details to MoD Guard Service in order for you to gain entry to this military establishment. To make this as smooth as possible please ensure that the entry form is completed fully. There is no allowance for spectators or additional vehicles.

The post was aimed at potential competitors, we're pretty much there on marshals I'm happy to say Ross

Have sent you a PM with my number, been twice as service crew and returning next year as a co-driver, give me a bell and I'll try and answer your questions Ross

The finale of a hugely successful year for the British Army Motorsport Association (BAMA) sees us return to Longmoor training area near Bordon, Hampshire for Exercise ROADMASTER 2013. This venue lends itself perfectly to the tried and tested format of a single venue, multi-stage navigation event. Big site with varied and challenging terrain (sand/water/mud/woodland) ensuring that whilst navigation will be the order of the day rather than complex off-roading, there will be plenty to keep you all entertained! And of course you can expect the usual light-hearted, relaxed and fun atmosphere that has become synonymous with the BAMA events this year (Santa hats are optional but will earn you bonus points ) Exact timings and details of the stages to follow once the final recce is complete but expect around 09.00 - 16.00 and at least 6 different styles of sections, all for less than the price of taking the family to the cinema! So if you fancy a break from the Xmas shopping and re-runs of Morecambe & Wise, stick the date in your diary and keep your eyes peeled for more details... Any questions, please ask! Ross

Fair enough. Try Reulsport in Belgium then, they had a bolt on solution the least time I was over there.

I wouldn't touch Wilwoods personally, we've had nothing but issues with them and parts are expensive. As per my previous offer, I can have disc brake conversions done very easily and your hubs converted to whatever stud pattern you want. Defender vented discs and calipers are popular but whatever hardware you fancy really. Ross

So who fancies 100+miles of night navigation around Salisbury Plain, including some of the bits normally closed to civilians...? If this sounds like fun to you then why not come along to the next BAMA event - Autumn Leaves - on the night of 14/15 Sept? I'm unable to attach the regs, if you want a copy then drop me a PM with an email address. Any questions, please ask! Ross

So who fancies 100+miles of night navigation around Salisbury Plain, including some of the bits normally closed to civilians...? If this sounds like fun to you then why not come along to the next BAMA event - Autumn Leaves - on the night of 14/15 Sept? I'm unable to attach the regs, if you want a copy then drop me a PM with an email address. Any questions, please ask! Ross

Hi Daan, Yes Shire will be on the permit, looks like the website just hasnt been updated... No MSA licence required, provided you're a member of a Club on the permit then that's sufficient. Aggressive tyres are discouraged because they're not really needed and they do have the potential to cause more damage to the ground. However, the wording is deliberately 'discouraged' rather than 'banned', we've had boggers on entrants before and I'll be running Simex on the recovery car! Regards, Ross

Steve, Daan, nice to hear from you both, its been a while! Right, I'll try to answer all your points... This is the 3rd BAMA offroad event this year, there's definitely 2 more to come, possibly 3 depending on entries/interest. No provision for spectators i'm afraid. No special navigation equipment needed or indeed allowed. As Steve says, its all down to factory fitted speedo, map and compass - back to basics, you'll love it Daan! As far as invited clubs go, if you're not a member of any club on the list, let me know what club you are in and I'll get it added to the permit, easy! Regards, Ross

Hi all, the next in the series of the so far very popular British Army Motorsport Assoc offroad events takes place on 21 April 2013 at Millbrook Proving and Testing Ground in Bedfordshire. Set in over 100 acres of the famous Millbrook offroad testing facility (as used by the British Army, Top Gear and vehicle manufacturers the World over), the event will follow the tried and tested format of 7 seperate navigational phases, designed to test the navigator and driver's ability to work as a team. A link to the event regulations and details on how to enter can be found at this https://www.dropbox.com/s/45m1ezpoxjrv7cu/20130218-MAGNUM_SPIRIT_13_SRV1.doc'>LINK. You can find a selection of photos from the last event in February http://www.dhollandphotography.co.uk/section437868_552003.html'>HERE And finally, the Millbrook website can be found http://www.millbrook.co.uk/Page/Off-Highway'>HERE These really are cracking events and well worth getting a long too - designed to be non damaging yet still demanding, the terrain at this new venue (which is NOT normally open to the public) will cater for all levels of vehicle and the setup team will ensure that there's plenty to keep navigators busy! Any questions, please let me know - hope to see some of you there! Regards, Ross

Drop me a PM, I can get your existing stubs disc converted using the big 110 front discs and calipers and a defender or D2 stud pattern. Ross

Bernie hasn't been well so may be in hospital again, I'll find out about the Co Driver and report back. Ross

After the success of the last one (see http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=72898), the next BAMA event will be held at Bramley training area near Basingstoke on Sun 29 Jan. Here are some extracts from the Regs, if you'd like an entry form or have any questions, please let me know. 1. Announcement. The British Army Motorsports Association (BAMA) is to promote a single venue, multi phase cross country navigation and skilled/safe driving event to be known as Rickshaw Ramble 2012. The event will be run on a part of the Home Counties Training Area and be based at Bramley Training area (entrance SU NW651 592) The event is clubman status for four wheel drive vehicles which are insured and taxed for on road use. The event will take place on 29 Jan 12. The event is suitable for all levels and the terrain is not demanding. There is no serious off road. 4. Eligibility. The event is open to members of the following clubs: AWDC BAMA Hants and Berks Rover Owners clubs RNMSA RAFMSA Federation of British Police Motor Club Metropolitan Police Motor Club CSMA And any other club which applies for an invitation (I can have you club added to this list if required) 5. Times. Event HQ (SU 654 589) will open at 0700hr Sunday 29 Jan 12. The following times apply: (Times are UT) a. Scrutineering 0730-0830b. Signing on 0745-0845 Any competitor not signed on by 0845 could be excluded and their place allocated to a reserve.c. Marshal’s briefing 0730d. Crew briefing 0900. This is mandatory for at least one crew member per vehicle.e. Car 0 on course 0945. Suceeding vehicles will start at one minute intervals.f. Prizegiving 1800 (approximatly) 6. Route. The route will be entirely on tracks of varying surfaces and of areas of hard standing (competitors are expressly forbidden from leaving tracks on pain of death!!) The distance will vary by route selection but is not likely to exceed 50 miles. There will be short gymkhana sections intespersed thoughout the day. Route instructions will be given at the start time for each competitor at the start of each phase (except the night navigation which will be issued 15 minutes before your due start time) and could be in any or all of the following forms, or a combination thereof: a. Grid references on OS maps of varying scale.b. Aerial imageryc. Photocopy mapsd. Sketch mapse. Verbal instructionsf. Traceg. Diagramh. Orienteering maps 9. Competing Vehicles. All competing vehicles must have four wheels and should be capable of engaging all four to drive at once. Vehicles are to be essentially standard and no special vehicles are permitted. What is a special will be decided by the organisers, but will include fire engines and ambulances. Whilst modified vehicles are permitted it must be accepted that, to retain the navigation essence of the event, offroad racers and similar vehicles are discouraged. Challenge type vehicles are not, in this regard, considered as racers. If in doubt please consult the Clerk of the Course before entering. The maximum size of vehicle should be about the size of a long wheelbased Land Rover. Crews are required to use seat belts and be in forward facing seats at all times when moving on the training Area. Smoking in vehicles is prohibited whist competing and care should be taken at all times on this area due to the risk from World War munitions buried in the ground (somewhere). 13. Fees. Entry fee is £50 per Crew. 16. Documentation. The followimg Documents are to be presented at signing on: a. An in date Club membership card or Service identity card.b. Current drivers licence for any competitor intending to drive.c. Current certificate of insurance. MoD vehicles must have a FMT 1001 signed by the MTO.d. Current Certificate of a DfT test. 19. Scrutineering. Vehicles will comply with the technical regulations. Whilst it appreciated that suitable tyres are sensible, really agressive tyres are not necessary on this area. The route has been traversed quite safely using all terrain tyres and if you are unsure please call the Clerk of the Course before entering. (Bernie Stevens 07 775 753 763) The chief scrutineer will advise the Clerk of the Course as to whether a vehicle may start or not. The decision of the Clerk of the Course is final and not subject to protest. All vehicles are to carry the following equipment at all times whilst competing: a. Warning Triangleb. Shovel or spade. It is very unlikely that you’ll get bogged in whilst on this area.c. First Aid Kitd. Tow Rope, this must be non kinetic. Additional ropes, of any type, may be carried. Winches may be used with care if absolutely necessary.e. D Shackle (stamped with the SWL appropriate for weight of the vehicle). This can be a ‘JATE’ ringf. Fire Extinguisher, at least 1Kg.g. A reflective waistcoat or jacket per crew memberh. A small spill kit. These are available on line or at local auto factors.i. A rubbish bag of at least 25 litre capacity. Do not ditch rubbish on the area! 21. Electronic devices. The following devices are forbidden, on pain of exclusion: a. Radio transmitters/receivers other than those designed for receiving public broadcasts.b. Satellite derived position indicating devices.c. Distance measuring device, other than that fitted as standard during manufacture.d. Speed calculating device other than that fitted as standard during manufacture.e. To remain within the spirit of the event the use of portable telephones to communicate with other vehicles, except in an emergency, is forbidden. 22. General Administration. a. Dress. Police and military personnel competing in service vehicles are expected to wear uniform. b. Equipment. All crews should bring pens, pencils, hi-lighter pens, tracing paper or acetate, an illuminated map magnifier and a Roamer. A stop watch could be useful if your mobile telephone is not equipped with one. A good interior light wil be helpful prior to the night navigation phase.c. Accommodation. No accommodation is available at Bramley.d. Food. A catering facility will be on site from 0630hr 29 Jan12. There is no service messing. Claims may be submitted on JPA in accordance with current regulations for Service representative sport with the concurrance of unit budget holders. JSP 752 refers.e. An authorised H&S specialist will carry out a full Health & Safety Risk Assessment, prior to the event. 23. Competitive phases: a. Phase 1 Orienteering. This uses an orienteering map marked with the control locations. Controls must be visited in the correct order but with competitors choosing the route. There will be an orienteering kite at each control and competitors will be required to punch the correct box on time card 1. A crew member may be required to dismount to punch cards. Manned Secret Controls (MSC) will be established to ensure compliance.b. Phase 2 Gymkhana 1. This will require competitors to negociate marked driving courses in both forward and reverse gears without penalty. Going in the wrong direction and striking a bollard will incur penalties, there will be a regularity test included which will require crews to traverse a given distance at a given speed within an unknown time. Results will be recorded on time card 1c. Phase 3 Sequential. Competitors will be given a marked photo copied map which shows the location of controls and the direction in which they must be passed, Controls must be visited in order and the code letter found recorded in the correct box on time card 2. MSC will be established to ensure compliance.d. Phase 4 Gymkhana 2. This will require competitors to negociate marked driving courses in both forward and reverse gears without penalty. Going in the wrong direction and striking a bollard will incur penalties, there will be will be a regularity test included which will require crews to traverse a given distance at a given speed within an unknown time. Results will be recorded on time card 2.e. Lunch Break. There will be a compulsory lunch break of 1 hour, the time of which will be made known.f. Phase 4. Navigation. This will require competitors to transpose a trace, or series of traces, on to an aerial photograph and follow the resultant route to arrive at the end time control within the time allowed. Route check boards will be posted to ensure crews remain on route. The code letters are to be written in the next available box on time card 3. Competitors must remain on defined tracks.g. Phase 6 Scatter. This will require competitors to visit as many ‘search points’ as possible in the time allowed. The information for this phase will be presented as a 1:5,000 map pre-marked with the points to visit. They can be visited in any order by any route, remaining on defined tracks, but code letters must be entered in the correct box on time card 4.h. Phase 7. Gymkhana 3. This will require competitors to negociate a marked driving course in both forward and reverse gears without penalty. Going in the wrong direction and striking a bollard will incur penalties. The results will be recorded on time card 4,i. Phase 8. Night Navigation. Crews will be given a set route to follow presented in various forms. Route checks will be established to ensure crews remain on routé, code letters must be entered in the next box on time card 5. Crews will be given 15 minutes to plot the route before their start time.Ross

AWDC and Challenge South West have been added to list of invited clubs by request. Pay on the day will be fine - have you sent your entry in already? Ross

Yep, send me your email and I'll add you to the BAMA mailing list. Ross

Yes this will run again next year. There are four events of this nature scheduled for next year, the first one being in late January over by Reading. Details to follow. Ross

Yep, spot on Ralph. Yeh PM me your email address and I'll ping you over the details. Hi Neil, same again, PM me your email address and I'll send you some stuff over. Anyone else fancy it?? Ross

Hi all, The British Army Motorsport Association (BAMA) is holding an off road event on the training area at Longmoor (nr Liphook/Bordon, Hampshire) on Sunday 18th Dec and have asked me to extend you all an invitation. It's a small, friendly and fun event that has been running for years but has only recently become open to civilian entries. It's the perfect way to kick off your xmas holidays and an opportunity to drive an otherwise closed military training area. Here's some excerpts from the Regs, please ask/PM if you require any more info or fancy entering. Route. The route will be entirely on forest tracks or cross country with varying degrees of severity, but is considered to be non damaging to vehicles. The distance will vary by route selection but is not likely to exceed 50 miles. There will be a short RTV trial section, this will be designed with the novice in mind. Route instructions will be given at the start time for each competitor at the start of each phase and could be in any or all of the following forms, or a combination thereof: a. Grid references b. Aerial imagery c. Photocopy maps d. Sketch maps e. Verbal instructions f. Trace Competing Vehicles. All competing vehicles must have four wheels and should be capable of engaging all four to drive at once. Whilst modified vehicles are permitted it must be accepted that, to retain the navigation essence of the event, offroad racers and similar vehicles are discouraged. Challenge type vehicles are not, in this regard, considered as racers. If in doubt please consult the Clerk of the Course before entering. The maximum size of vehicle should be about the size of a long wheelbased Land Rover. Vehicles must be road legal and have current MOT and insurance. Competitive phases: a. Phase 1 Navigation. This will require competitors to transpose a trace on to an aerial photograph and follow the resultant route to arrive at the end time control within the time allowed. Route check boards will be posted to ensure crews remain on route. The code letters are to be written in the next available box on time card 1. Competitors must remain on defined tracks. b. Phase 2. Scatter. This will require competitors to visit as many ‘search points’ as possible in the time allowed. The information for this phase will be presented as an aerial image pre-marked with the points to visit. They can be visited in any order by any route but code letters must be entered in the correct box on time card 2. c. Phase 3. Orienteering. This uses an orienteering map marked with the control locations. Controls must be visited in the correct order but with competitors choosing the route. There will be an orienteering kite at each control and competitors will be required to punch the correct box on time card 3. A crew member may be required to dismount to punch cards. Manned Secret Controls (MSC) will be established to ensure compliance. d. Phase 4. Sequential. Competitors will be given a marked photocopied map which will show the location of controls and the direction in which they must be passed, Controls must be visited in order and the code letter found recorded in the correct box on time card 4. MSC will be established to ensure compliance. e. Phase 5. Lunch Break. f. Phase 6. RTV type trial. g. Phase 7. Navigation medley. Crews will be given a set route to follow presented in various forms. Route checks will be established to ensure crews remain on route, code letters must be entered in the next box on time card 6.

you gotta love Blackberry's.... Tdi cambelt pulley

Td5 cambelt pulley, not idler pulley. Ross

I know of one for sale, a 6x6 ambulance variant, currently located in Scotland. PM me for more details. Ross