DC_ Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 As the title says guys, I think I've got a leaky lift pump on my 2.5 n/a diesel. Is it a hard job to do or straight out and in? Cheers. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Easy. Two bolts, two fuel connections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkie Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 ^^^ As above. I'd just add that it is wise to make sure the area around the old pump is clean and dry before you do anything. You don't want any crud and water getting in the fuel system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy996 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Even a muppet like me can change one at the roadside. The hardest bit is getting the engine to bleed quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 Thanks guys, don't know why but I wasn't getting email notification on replies so apologies for not getting back sooner. right then, one lift pump getting ordered... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 Now I've hit a snag, the picture below is the lift pump I have on my 1987 2.5 n/a engine. but searching for lift pumps there seems to be different variations. Would ther be a difference due to mine being ex army? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Nope, that looks like my Delphi lift pump currently sat on my 200tdi. but they will fit all pre 300tdi 4 cylinder diesels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 When you buy a new lift pump, it includes a variety of fitting to adapt to the somewhat differing piping arrangements that happened through the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 No one's mentioned the spacer ... Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 The spacer to make sure the arm of the lift pump doesn't get damaged on the lobe of the shaft? Does anyone have the proper part number? Or...... is it a case of anyone will do as long as the spacer etc is used? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 12 hours ago, western said: Nope, that looks like my Delphi lift pump currently sat on my 200tdi. but they will fit all pre 300tdi 4 cylinder diesels If I'm not mistaken this is the type that you can replace the diaphragm on, and Ralph you say you've got one of these on your 200? - I thought the ports where in different positions making it awkward to hook up the fuel pipes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 not like mine, just had a look, mine is this type But it does say fits 2.5 & 200tdi diesel engines. http://www.brit-car.co.uk/product.php/203549/0/fuel_lift_pump_2_5__amp__200tdi_diesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 The spacers are dependent on the specific block. some blocks have it built in. Others don't. You compare arm length from new to old to decide if you need the spacer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevm Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 As above, exactly what i was thinking about the arm length/spacers there seems to be many different sorts that will fit and I think it comes down to what suits your existing pipes. I fitted a Delphi type one on mine (2.5na) last year, a very easy straight swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 Thanks guys as usual, I'll wait until the weeeknd when I've got "landy" time to make sure I get the correct replacement (ease of swap for pipes etc) ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 If you happen to buy a pump without a spacer, and then find you need one, I have one knocking around the garage. Just let me know and I can stick it in the post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 Much appreciated Reb78 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 Right guys, only just getting round to the lift pump today..... OMG !! What a palava !! so the lift pump that paddocks sent is the one for the 200tdi (although it says it's for different models) took off the old pump, checked the arms, putting the spacer on made the arm wayyyyy shorter. Tried to put it on without the spacer, there's a bolt on the plate that spoils it from going on. So, that means the spacer has to be fitted to get round the bolt problem. But then the arm would be short.... (that's not to mention the studs holding the pump on never came out easily so had to do the two nut trick ?) so decided after inspecting and cleaning up the original pump to refit that and see if tightening the top 6 screws would help. If not, either a proper lift pump (if I can actually source one) or a new gasket on it. Got the fuel filter changed ok though ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 it should be lift pump LR part ETC7869, you might need fitting kit RTC6180 if your engine number is before 12J39054C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 Nope that's not it, that's the one paddocks sent out with spacer etc..... i need the pump where the fuel lines go in and out the sides...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 On 16/01/2017 at 9:21 PM, DC_ said: Now I've hit a snag, the picture below is the lift pump I have on my 1987 2.5 n/a engine. but searching for lift pumps there seems to be different variations. Would ther be a difference due to mine being ex army? This is the one I need.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 the last part number I posted is direct from the 110 parts book for your engine. being ex military won't make any difference, are there any numbers or makers name on it ? this looks the closest http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MASSEY-FERGUSON-PERKINS-4-192-4-203TA-HYSTER-FUEL-LIFT-PUMP-461-193-HFP193-/141204244251 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 What year does your parts book start Ralph? My mates starts at 1987..... we discovered mines should be for an 86, johnrichards surplus have one on their site and it's the one I'm after but....... who knows what they'll send out !! Yes that pump looks similar, but the arm is too steep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I'vegot both parts books upto 1986 & from 1987 I'll have a look in my upto 1986 book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 Thanks Ralph ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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