Gregved Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Hi I have a 200tdi clutch assembly and looking to make the clutch lighter. I've read the 300tdi/td5 have different spring. Is the later Spring able to fit the earlier clutches with a little modification (cut a notch out of the back of the pedal for the Spring to sit etc) or would you reckon it be easier to replace the older Spring ( front of pedal type) with a lighter return Spring so there less resistance. Worst case I'll have to bite the bullet and buy a newer assembly lol Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litch Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The spring will not fit the early clutch pedals as they are made from a three sided pressing, the later ones are flat and the spring will fit them no problem. About three years ago I wanted to replace my clutch pedal assembly (the old one needed painting plus I liked the idea of the later one with spring). As a genuine part it was only £35 (part number SKB500280) so it was a no-brainer, same item now is £100 or more. Ironic thing is that I have since gone auto so it is sitting in the shed with all the other bits that "might come in handy one day". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregved Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Thanks for reply litch, I thought that be the case. for a cheaper option I'll try find a lighter Spring so it's not as heavy. But I'll keep an eye out for a cheap 2nd hand one. Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timc1967 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Some fit a servo in the clutch line. I'm not technical though so no idea what the process involves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 The spring on the pedal is a pedal return spring only, so won't make any difference to the clutch itself. Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) The spring on the pedal of 300tdi TD5 makes a significant difference. I fitted a 300 Tdi pedal and spring to my V8 and i can now press the clutch pedal down with my thumb Edited February 14, 2017 by neil110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Since I broke my hip last May I have had a Red Booster servo system fitted to my 300Tdi. Yep the clutch is much easier. Easier to the fact it's weird. However without the Red Booster I still wouldn't be driving. I've also tried a 200Tdi with a Red Booster fitted and all I can say is it's very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Where did you get it from Mike? Do you mind me asking how much the unit was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 http://www.britpart.com/parts/vehicle-enhancements/defender/interior-enhancements/da1266/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, reb78 said: Where did you get it from Mike? Do you mind me asking how much the unit was? http://www.redbooster.com/where-to-buy 375 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 On 2017-02-14 at 7:40 AM, Les Henson said: The spring on the pedal is a pedal return spring only, so won't make any difference to the clutch itself. Les This is not exactly true, the spring "inverts" once it gets over a certain point so helps to push the pedal then on returning it goes over the centre point and helps return the pedal to the up position. After I broke my hip I removed the old return spring and installed the later style coil spring (luckily I had replaced the pedal before with the newer single pressed type) - I commute daily in my truck and it made an amazing difference! I'm 26 months down the line from my hip surgery, and my leg is fine with the clutch. When I was still laid up in bed I actually bought a servo system as like you I was pretty worried about how I would be able to keep driving my truck, it wasn't a red rooster one, but a system commonly used on classic cars to add servo assist to brakes, I've still got it in a box in my garage. Anywhoo, you'll be over the moon with upgrading the spring to the new type, it totally transforms the drive. Swapping the pedal out isn't such a huge job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 It still doesn't affect the clutch itself, just the pedal. Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 The effect of fitting one of these springs is that you will feel the clutch pedal as being lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I had this spring on my last 90 and it made the world of difference to how the clutch pedal felt, feels rather over centre in operation helping on the downward stroke and the upward. We'll worth doing. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 So reading above, the spring cant be fitted to the 19j/200tdi era 90/110/defenders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Not without the relevant pedal/pedal box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Isn't the 300/td5 pedal lighter as standard? Is it then even lighter with the modified spring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 It's much lighter with the spring Rich. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 The later pedal box without the assister over-centre spring (as found in later Td5/Tdci models) will still be lighter than pre-300Tdi ones as it doesn't have the big long return spring which the earlier ones do. As above adding the assister spring makes it even nicer to use. I also found than when I changed the clutch on mine the pedal got lighter - presumably the new clutch cover had a lighter spring pressure, despite being a 130/HD spec one. Works great anyway, only problem is the pivot in the pedal box plays up and goes creaky if I don't oil it regularly. When I get an opportunity I will strip it down and fit a grease nipple to ease this process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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