dangerous doug Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 After pulling my shafts to fit the Detroit locker I caught a peep of what was behind my drive flanges.....I quickly put every thing back together pretending I diddnt see anything! now the time has come to do something about it. im in the proses of buying new bearings, discs and pads but am curious about these HD flanges, not for the HD part but for the spin on cap that should hopefully prevent nastiness from creeping in. Are they as water tight as they look or are they just something shiny? are there any brands to look for or avoid? I'm leaning towards the KAM ones at the moment but there are raptor ones and terrafirma(urghh) or should I just stop messing around and get Ashcroft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Some, though I am not sure which, have an o-ring in them, which should mean complete water tightness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco-Ron Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Avoid raptor.... extremely bad engineering and no I ring.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I Have Ashcroft's top notch with O- Ring zero leaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Ditto with Les... Ashcroft all round and all have O-rings.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 There is nothing to stop you adding an o-ring, but those without are cheap, and cheap does not normally go hand in hand with quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 Thanks guys, I went for KAM ones in the end as they seem to be a good all rounder with the o ring. Would love the Ashcroft flanges as the quality is second to none but can't justify £108 a corner when I got the KAM ones for £150 for all 4. The 10 bolt design is also intreaguing.... thanks for the heads heads up on the raptor flanges, that would have made me very angry very quickly! And im a firm believer of buy cheap buy twice but I think KAM have a fairly decent reputation? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Variable...dependant on product imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 13 hours ago, dangerous doug said: The 10 bolt design is also intreaguing.... Its actually two different 5 bolt patterns so that one flange can do both types (with a spacer for the wide type). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 I diddnt realise that, the ad states you can drill the extra 5 holes for "maximum strength". i suppose there is nothing stopping that really and it has been done. So are the 2 flanges on a different pcd or different bolt size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I think they're a different PCD and bolt size. One of the bolt patterns is for metric bolts and the other should fit the imperial ones. This said, I could be completely wrong, but I'm sure its what I read a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) I have a 1984 One_Ten. At various points during the time I have owned it I have fitted all sorts of bits n pieces to the axles. When I converted to Vented front discs and rear discs I fitted the later type, flatter, drive members. Then I had a prolonged chat with Ashcrofts about the merits of various items so now it runs their half shafts in the disc brake back axle and is fitted with the earlier, deep type, drive members ( I also removed the stub axle oil seals at the same time) The front is running a 4 pin diff, Ashcroft half shafts, Ashcroft AEU2522 type CVs and Ashcroft drive members. This has been the set up for about 12 years now. where was I? Oh yes, the drive members have been swapped back and forth between the various hubs without any problem whatsoever as have the retaining bolts, from the very early plain bolts to the later flanged bolts. Thus empirical research suggests that either type of drive member should fit either style hub and the threads are the same Edited April 7, 2017 by neil110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 http://www.kamdiffs.com/products-2/heavy-duty-hubs/ Details on there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtrans Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 21 hours ago, dangerous doug said: Thanks guys, I went for KAM ones in the end as they seem to be a good all rounder with the o ring. Would love the Ashcroft flanges as the quality is second to none but can't justify £108 a corner when I got the KAM ones for £150 for all 4. The 10 bolt design is also intreaguing.... Hi, yes, ours are dearer but not £ 108 / corner, ours are £ 108 (inc VAT) for a pair, we don't have a huge margin on them, this is just what they cost with UK sourced EN24T and being machined in the UK, thanks, Dave 21 hours ago, dangerous doug said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 45 minutes ago, ashtrans said: Hi, yes, ours are dearer but not £ 108 / corner, ours are £ 108 (inc VAT) for a pair, we don't have a huge margin on them, this is just what they cost with UK sourced EN24T and being machined in the UK, thanks, Dave Ah, the impression I got from your site is that there were sold singularly. Shame as everything I have had from Ashcroft has been spot on so I have delved into the unknown needlessly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Small update on the subject Do not buy these if you have THICK flanges. my rear axle runs thin flanges so no problem there. my front axle has thick flanges which is where the problems begin. KAM made a spacer ring(KAM102) to convert their flanges to a thick flange, they no longer make this and allmakes (who now seem to have bought the rights to a lot of KAMs products) do not wish to take up manufacture of them. KAM aftercare: non existent but thin flanges.....can't fault them so far, fit The splines nicely, nice snug fit in the hub hub nut spins on beautifully with one finger. Overall verdict unless you want 10 bolts going into your hub, just get Ashcroft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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