need4speed Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 As title. Would it fit into a defender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I can't see why it wouldn't, after all people have put GMC 6.5l V8 diesels in there, the V8 from a Corvette has been inserted under the bonnet of a 90 by Twisted and JE have dropped a 4.7 litre supercharged jaguar lump into a 110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Anything is possible. Whether it's a good idea is always up for debate - with big HP comes breaking everything else between the engine & the wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 With enough cutting, you can fit anything in anything... But yes, I can't see why not, though I get the feeling that an LS would have better aftermarket support, even this side of the atlantic -aluminium, lighter, more modern blah blah... They are a heavy lump being iron, the figure I have seen is around the 350Kg mark. Do tell us your plans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 The Americans admit it's on the heavy side and not as well supported as the LS: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/ccrp-0602-big-block-ford-engine-build/ I'll echo Bowie and ask what you're planning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 Loving that pic of the old Renault! Actually I've made a mistake. It's not a 460, it's a 351W. Also it's not mine. I've still to finish off my 4.6. My dad is building a 110 and has a 351 lying around. What's causing the biggest questions is drive train. He would prefer an auto but no idea what one and how to mate it to transfer box... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I'd say he'd be better off selling it to some classic car type and whacking a LR powertrain in, it'll be way easier, more reliable and cheaper. Unless he just wants the challenge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 But he loves that engine! So do I if I'm honest. Stroked to 383 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 If you wanted an auto, I'd wager a 727 torqueflite would bolt up, these were fitted in early Rangies, so of course have the LT230 on the back of them.... and have massive torque figures put through them. Bit lighter, around 250Kg, still not as light as a nice RV8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 RV8 lighter but we reckon the 383 is making 400-450hp. With major torque of course. So a 727torqueflite. LT230. Is there a specific bellhousing required? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Possibly, but that is beyond my knowledge Yank transmission vendors would be a good place to look I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 No worries. On the rangey auto with the torqueflite box, was that mated to the LT230 or was it the Borg Warner? Edit: I see there is a 727 from RR for sale on fleabay just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I'm pretty sure the torqueflite was only on the LT230 , but the BW T/B is the same bolt pattern ? Back when I was playing with US iron I used Rodley Motors in Bradford for parts and info ( Transam 455 moneypit ) , that was a while ago but worth a punt for info ? cheers Steve b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Yes, LT230, with the infamous 1:1 ratio... You may be to fit a BW, but may find it under geared -the 727 is fairly low ratio from memory, hence the 1:1 LT230. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 So with the LT230 he will be sorted. Just need to find out what bellhousing he needs. What about this... thoughts? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-v8-4-6-Torqueflite-727-autobox-/272751533263?hash=item3f81421ccf:g:wSUAAOSw-89ZUBjA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 Ok so just had an email back from a US transmission place that the 727 won't mate with the 351 without an adapter and special flex plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 Well? What about that 727 I linked to? Is that a reasonable price? I'm not up to speed on autos.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Really not sure to be honest, don't often need to muck about with the auto boxes. It does sound like you will be into an adapter anyways, and seems like the yank place out found at least has a solution. I'd be interested to know if the RV8 application had an adapter or bolted straight up -never played with a 727 box yet I suppose the other thing to look at is what will bolt up without adaptation, and then consider one of the stateside adapters to LT230 -I think inchworm is one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSIIA Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Bowie69 said: I'd be interested to know if the RV8 application had an adapter or bolted straight up -never played with a 727 box yet Factory RRC fit came with a torque convertor housing to engine adapter plate. Back end fitted with an adaptor to a LT230. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 Yes it's A&A transmission that's looking into what adapter and flex plate he needs. Just for the fullness of options, what manual gearbox would be best placed to handle the torque and be able to mate up with the LT230? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 I'd still like to hear from some of the auto fans on here if this is a good deal? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-v8-4-6-Torqueflite-727-autobox-/272751533263?hash=item3f81421ccf:g:wSUAAOSw-89ZUBjA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 No suggestions for gearbox if he wanted to stay with a manual? I know the motor would turn any LR gearbox to a box of metal filings. I also think that the Tremec TKO range of gearboxes aren't 4x4 compatible. If that is correct what would the options be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Honestly? No idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Something yank that bolts to it would be my answer for manual or auto, the TF727 was not as strong in LR form as it was behind some of the yank stuff and the thing's as old as the hills now - 3 speeds, really? By the time you've p*ssed about with adapters and things you could likely order some massively overbuilt setup direct from the states that you pull out of the crate & just bolt it up and it lives happily ever after no matter how many ponies you hit it with. What you do about axles is the next question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 One problem at a time john... Just wanna know the best way to go about fitting a gearbox to the 351 first of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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