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With an EFI plenum etc. you'll struggle to fit the 110 V8 airbox in, I couldn't make it work on the ambulance and that was a factory V8 with the huge airbox as standard.

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I’ll leave at the front for now I think.  I would think I could shorten the loom if I needed to move them back later. Anyone know the the leads I need ? I think Nige is still catching up from holiday I couldn’t get hold of him to see what leads he is selling. Also need a decent run cable route from behind the seat into the engine bay.

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Okay I went shopping at Nige’s and I am planning to move them back over here and weld together the conversion plates from Nige. Pick up my extended air box mount I don’t use and then maybe a point on the plenum to secure. Leads wise I have do it your self in red from Nige and a questionable crimp thing from eBay for £5.

 

crimp thing may be a false economy but we will see.

 

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So I need to get more excited about building a bracket to come off the bell housing than I currently am. Watching binky helped but not enough. Anyone any suggestions ?

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Yes they did but that would have been mainly because there is no space at the front with alternator, a/c compressor, power steering etc and they can be mounted centrally with spark lead length being the same for opposite cylinders.

On my 4.6 I have mounted the coil pacs on top of what would have been the A/C mount at the front left of the engine - they work fine but it is a long distance to reach number 8 cylinder.

 

garry

 

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My current ones are at the front and lots of people run them fine. But at the back is a shorter cable run and I can set them up without disturbing my current ones. How about the discovery and Range Rover mounts don’t they bolt at the back somewhere?

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HoSS mounted the coil packs on the back when he did the conversion on what's now my 110 - there's a flat plate across the back behind the inlet (from memory it may mount via two existing tapped holes on the thor inlet) with the 2 coil packs mounted to that. I'll probably be down with the car / engine at the weekend, I'll try and remember to take pics. It's all out at the moment as a 4.6 is going in :)

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If you've got a Thor inlet, and are using EDIS coil packs, why not just use the factory Bosch coil packs with their pretty factory mount? They're at least as good and operate exactly the same...

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2 hours ago, elbekko said:

If you've got a Thor inlet, and are using EDIS coil packs, why not just use the factory Bosch coil packs with their pretty factory mount? They're at least as good and operate exactly the same...

Not sure if that was for me or not - it's an already complete setup that was pre-made when I got the car, we are just swapping it from one engine to another...

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In general, but yes to you since you're asking about mounting EDIS coil packs. There are good factory options, that mount in the factory location, so it might be less effort and cleaner to just change the loom instead of trying to fit EDIS coils in that spot.

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EDIS is going, the ms3 will drive the coils directly.  I don’t have a thor top end but if I can get a bracket I can weld the coil mount plates on that would be ideal.

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GEMS has separate coils that can be driven by DCD and mount behind the intake as well.

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Looks like the discovery and the Range Rover mount back there. Would those mount on my 4.2 LSE engine so I can weld my existing coil mounts on?

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Still pondering the bracket, might need find a bracket wizard to help me with that. 

Having watched binky gives me two ideas. One can I squeeze ms3 behind my touch screen.

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might need a thinner touchscreen but maybe I can cut a hole in the grey plastic cover behind and steal a few more cm.

The other is could in use the lovely 

http://www.badobsessionmotorsport.co.uk/product/34-pin-delphi-connector-kit/

connectors to go through the bulkhead for the wiring loom. Seem a little big but would be a nice solution if it would work.

 

 

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