FridgeFreezer Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 With an EFI plenum etc. you'll struggle to fit the 110 V8 airbox in, I couldn't make it work on the ambulance and that was a factory V8 with the huge airbox as standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 I’ll leave at the front for now I think. I would think I could shorten the loom if I needed to move them back later. Anyone know the the leads I need ? I think Nige is still catching up from holiday I couldn’t get hold of him to see what leads he is selling. Also need a decent run cable route from behind the seat into the engine bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 Okay I went shopping at Nige’s and I am planning to move them back over here and weld together the conversion plates from Nige. Pick up my extended air box mount I don’t use and then maybe a point on the plenum to secure. Leads wise I have do it your self in red from Nige and a questionable crimp thing from eBay for £5. crimp thing may be a false economy but we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 So I need to get more excited about building a bracket to come off the bell housing than I currently am. Watching binky helped but not enough. Anyone any suggestions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrycol Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Yes they did but that would have been mainly because there is no space at the front with alternator, a/c compressor, power steering etc and they can be mounted centrally with spark lead length being the same for opposite cylinders. On my 4.6 I have mounted the coil pacs on top of what would have been the A/C mount at the front left of the engine - they work fine but it is a long distance to reach number 8 cylinder. garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 My current ones are at the front and lots of people run them fine. But at the back is a shorter cable run and I can set them up without disturbing my current ones. How about the discovery and Range Rover mounts don’t they bolt at the back somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 HoSS mounted the coil packs on the back when he did the conversion on what's now my 110 - there's a flat plate across the back behind the inlet (from memory it may mount via two existing tapped holes on the thor inlet) with the 2 coil packs mounted to that. I'll probably be down with the car / engine at the weekend, I'll try and remember to take pics. It's all out at the moment as a 4.6 is going in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 If you've got a Thor inlet, and are using EDIS coil packs, why not just use the factory Bosch coil packs with their pretty factory mount? They're at least as good and operate exactly the same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, elbekko said: If you've got a Thor inlet, and are using EDIS coil packs, why not just use the factory Bosch coil packs with their pretty factory mount? They're at least as good and operate exactly the same... Not sure if that was for me or not - it's an already complete setup that was pre-made when I got the car, we are just swapping it from one engine to another... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 In general, but yes to you since you're asking about mounting EDIS coil packs. There are good factory options, that mount in the factory location, so it might be less effort and cleaner to just change the loom instead of trying to fit EDIS coils in that spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 EDIS is going, the ms3 will drive the coils directly. I don’t have a thor top end but if I can get a bracket I can weld the coil mount plates on that would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 GEMS has separate coils that can be driven by DCD and mount behind the intake as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 Looks like the discovery and the Range Rover mount back there. Would those mount on my 4.2 LSE engine so I can weld my existing coil mounts on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Still pondering the bracket, might need find a bracket wizard to help me with that. Having watched binky gives me two ideas. One can I squeeze ms3 behind my touch screen. might need a thinner touchscreen but maybe I can cut a hole in the grey plastic cover behind and steal a few more cm. The other is could in use the lovely http://www.badobsessionmotorsport.co.uk/product/34-pin-delphi-connector-kit/ connectors to go through the bulkhead for the wiring loom. Seem a little big but would be a nice solution if it would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 What is the going rate for a second hand MS3 kit, coil drivers, trigger wheel and the sensors ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 Maybe the £500 mark ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 Will this fit on the back of a 4.2 lse engine that I can then graft my VW packs to ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303070483855 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 I *think* there are extra bosses on the inlet manifold that that boots to, but a bit fuzzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, mad_pete said: Will this fit on the back of a 4.2 lse engine that I can then graft my VW packs to ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303070483855 I wouldn't bother with that style. If you stumble across one of the later ones which had 2 coil packs with 4 outputs each, as used on the Thor engines and later GEMS engines, they work really well with MS direct drive or EDIS. ISTR I made my own bracket for mine that used whatever available holes/bolts I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 I don’t want the coil packs just the bracket. I’m um ing and ah ing too much at the moment. If I get a bracket that bolts to the engine hopefully I can bolt my VW coil packs to that and move on to the next thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointFive Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 For as simple a thing as they are, I really would make the bracket rather than buy one for that money. I would be happy to take photos/measurements etc of my spare coil pack's bracket if it helps you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 ...and Nige makes lovely laser-cut brackets specifically for Ford or VW coil packs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 I have Nige’s lovely laser cut brackets but I need something to bolt them to at the back. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 17 hours ago, ThreePointFive said: For as simple a thing as they are, I really would make the bracket rather than buy one for that money. I would be happy to take photos/measurements etc of my spare coil pack's bracket if it helps you out. If it mounts at the back that would be great. I have a front mount one but seeing if I can get a shorter loom run. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Sorry, mine are on the front - no room at the back due to air filter on the 127 and bulkhead on the 109. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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