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Hi

I'm finally ready to take the plunge and fit my truck with a galv chassis but sourcing this is becoming a bit of a nightmare:

Marsland will only supply to trade customers and are expensive

Designa not currently making defender chassis only series stuff

Richards quote me 10 to 12 week delivery time and there is anecdotal evidence that they often miss deadlines. Bearing in mind that the truck is already off the road now and even if they delivered in 8 weeks i still need to t wash, prime, paint and waxoyl before fitting so that is an extended period VOR.

Which brings me to Shielder, an Irish supplier that I haven't heard of before who are substantially cheaper than Richards  but I am a little nervous about making such a key purchase from an unknown  maker. 

I wonder if anyone has any experience of their products or work?

Thanks Mark

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Have you spoken to Marslands? I only ask as I am not trade and have recently bought a 110 chassis from them with no issues. It was only a three week lead time in February this year and where the cheapest when I was looking.

Toby

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I noticed the other day that Devon 4x4 are selling Marsland chassis'. The prices seemed good too which is odd for Devon 4x4!! Take a look, it might help. 

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26 minutes ago, Landrovernuts said:

Have you spoken to Marslands? I only ask as I am not trade and have recently bought a 110 chassis from them with no issues. It was only a three week lead time in February this year and where the cheapest when I was looking.

Toby

Thanks Toby, I rang them earlier this week, the lady who answered said that they are now only taking trade enquiries and wouldn't even entertain discussing prices or availability with me. So I got somebody who is an independent LR specialist to ring them for a price, he came back with £3k (I've no idea if he added a handling charge).

18 minutes ago, reb78 said:

I noticed the other day that Devon 4x4 are selling Marsland chassis'. The prices seemed good too which is odd for Devon 4x4!! Take a look, it might help. 

Cheers Richard I'll have a look.

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Did you talk to Richards ?

Sometimes they have one "lying around" from a cancelled order etc...

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Yes was about to place an order but thought I would ring to check lead in time first.

Hadn't thought to have a trawl around the parts suppliers though so doing that now thanks @reb78 . really need something sooner than 10 weeks or the truck is going to be off the road all winter!

 

 

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When I was looking, I asked Brookwells in Devon and they wanted £1600 plus the dreaded (110 TD5), but may of course cost more if you have to factor in delivery. They said to me at the time that they kept some instock and when I drove past recently they must have had 10 or so laying on the ground, but may have been orders. They also said that they sourced from Richards and from Marsland.

Toby

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Didn't realise Marslands has stopped supplying to the public, but sure enough their website now says 'suppliers to trade'.

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 Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I should have ordered at the start of the summer when I thought about it.  But I decided not to mainly because of the lead in time, I put a new engine in in July and had thought to do both jobs together but when the lead in time meant this wasn't possible and the truck passed its test I decided against, at that stage there were no real signs of how bad the chassis was.

Tried ringing Shielder chassis on Weds, still waiting on a call back so still trawling around trying to find best price / lead time combination UGH!

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Update!

Trip to Peterborough for the LRO Show yesterday and did a cash deal with Shielder for a new galv chassis, about £700 cheaper and lead time of 3 weeks.

Now busy studying @western's chassis swap thread to see what else I need before it lands.

 

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On 13/09/2017 at 1:08 PM, reb78 said:

I noticed the other day that Devon 4x4 are selling Marsland chassis'. The prices seemed good too which is odd for Devon 4x4!! Take a look, it might help. 

It turns out that they aren't supplying Marsland's. They source from Britpart and that supply originate from Richards. Also the price has changed. 😱

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1 hour ago, Peaklander said:

It turns out that they aren't supplying Marsland's. They source from Britpart and that supply originate from Richards. Also the price has changed. 😱

Thanks for this Peaklander, I did a bit of digging on this and am told that Marsland are now supplying Britpart, hence the trade only status.

Mark

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You're obviously happy with what you saw at Shielder's stand at the show. Are there any differences in construction between theirs and the Richards or Marsland chassis?

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They use 2.5m steel for the legs same as Richards and 4mm for rear x member, bolt in gear box x member as standard.

They don't remove any excess galv from bolt holes but the chassis they had on display didn't look bad TBH. Guess I'll see when it arrives in 3 weeks! I'll be sure to put up a rebuild thread and let you all know what it is like.

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15 hours ago, landroversforever said:

I'm interested to see too :)

+1 ^^

 

TBH, I think so many folk are doing chassis swaps that I wonder if the manufacturers simply can't keep up with demand.

I imagine it's easier for them dealing with businesses that make regular orders. That way they probably spend less time answering questions and arguing over prices.

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1 hour ago, mickeyw said:

+1 ^^

 

TBH, I think so many folk are doing chassis swaps that I wonder if the manufacturers simply can't keep up with demand.

I imagine it's easier for them dealing with businesses that make regular orders. That way they probably spend less time answering questions and arguing over prices.

No doubt this is the case, the guy from Shielder did say that it is a nightmare dealing with people who ring half a dozen times asking questions and then perhaps don't even buy.

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I don't remember exactly what it was which I didn't really like about the shielder chassis, but I walked away from their stand thinking that when I buy that it will be marshland 

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I found the shielder built chassis advertised on eBay, and given the prices and lead times for Richards and Marslands it does appear a good deal. Would be interesting to see all three suppliers' chassis lined up for an immediate comparison although having seen the RC and  Marslands side by side I would have still opted for the latter. RC wins on its customisable options during fabrication but the "genuine" construction of the Marslands wins my vote.

A lot of heavy duty agricultural equipment comes from the Emerald Isle (we've got tankers/low loaders/trailers etc all from Irish suppliers) and they're very well made...if Sheilder get a good name by supplying a good product especially on forums like this then it can only be a good thing for the preservation of the species!

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5 hours ago, Lewis said:

I don't remember exactly what it was which I didn't really like about the shielder chassis, but I walked away from their stand thinking that when I buy that it will be marshland 

It will be interesting going forward as it seems that Marsland are now branded as Britpart (not sure if the Chassis' are delivered in blue boxes LOL). It also proved impossible for me to get a price directly from Marsland and when I got a dealer to enquire for me I was told £2500 + the dreaded (£3k), although I did see that Rimmers (who list them at £3031) are offering to price match on them

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