Farky Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Hey, need some help with this Bought a 200tdi snorkel on eBay, it came without any adaptor to go inside the engine bay. It's a 200tdi disco engine in an old defender and fitting an air box seems more hassle then I want so planning on just running a pipe direct from the snorkel to the turbo and fitting an air filter up the top of my snorkel but have no real idea how to get a pipe to run and seal between my snorkel which is just bolted to the outside over the top of the old air intake grill. any ideas would be greatly appreciated as I'm a bit stumped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 A few variables here as I found the hard way..... do you have a passenger side snorkel that mounts on the wing air intake or to you have a drivers side one? Is it a top of the wing style, what airbox do you currently have? Pics would be helpfull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Landy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I had a stock 200TDI and had installed a Safari snorkel to it, useing the side vent on the wing. If I were you, I would make the adapter to accommodate the existing original round style air filter or use the Disco 1 square filter box. If you dont have access to pipes you can use silicone hoses but that might be a more costly option. You can mount a K and N cone shape filter on top of your snorkel but IMO, it will be impractical to me and you will get rain hitting it which will cause water to get in and it will rust too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 As Doug says we need more info before we can help...I have a safari snorkel, this bolts directly to the outer wing skin with a foam seal utilising the original inner wing connector....which are like hens teeth although they do drop up on eBay now and again. If you are handy at fabricating then making up an adaptor plate with a suitable pipe boss isn't too hard. For the hose to the airbox for the snorkel I bought some flexible hose from Southdown. A With regards to filtration you could always fit a filter head similar to those installed on some older tractors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farky Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'll take some pictures first thing in the morning to show what I'm working with. It's a drivers side snorkel that enters through the old intake grill on the wing. I don't have an inner wing connector so I'll have to find one or fabricate one as suggested. I don't currently have an air box and space is quite tight as the pictures will show you. I currently just have a pipe coming off the turbo with a conical air filter attached to that. I think a proper job would be to fit an airbox and an inner wing adaptor like some others have managed to do on this site but as it's a bit of an old bitsa truck I was looking at other ways. Land Rover airboxes are quite expensive, are they a special design or is it just a case of having an airtight box with a filter in it with an inlet and outlet hose? Hopefully pictures tomorrow will help clear things up thanks for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Drivers side? 200tdi should be passenger side... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Right well that's a bit more helpfull, the defender 200tdi snorkel on the passenger side is a real PITA with its stupid plenum thing you cant get to easily because of the heater. So getting one for the other side wasn't a bad idea. Is it a wing top intake you have or the side Intake? If your short on space I have a tdci air box for sale which fits into the wing behind the O/S headlight which may make things easier for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farky Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 No that's my mistake. It's a passenger side one. No idea why I wrote drivers side. Its a very similar snorkel to the one scotts90 just put up. Looking at where the space is I'm wishing I had bought the 300tdi snorkel which is on the drivers side and then run everything over. would the airbox you have for sale fit on the passenger side of the engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris113 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Not too sure if the turbo/intercooler pipes would interfere with placement on a 200Tdi but this was my solution for a retrofitted 300tdi. It's a Discovery 300Tdi filter box and pipework connecting it to the engine. The pipe to the snorkel which isn't fitted in this picture comes out of the front, turns 180' and goes under the filter, squeezes past the heater and connects to the snorkel. The flexible hose came from Southdown. Whilst the panel filter may not be as effective as a cyclone filter fitted to Defender versions, this solution was cheap and fitted in the space available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farky Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 Right here are pictures as promised. There are plenty of discovery airboxes for sale online but whether I could fit one in I don't know. Also painting it is somewhere on my long list of jobs before anyone else says it. So as you'll see the snorkel enters on the passsenger side, where there is no inner wing connection so I need to buy/fabricate one somehow and I need to squeeze an airbox in and connect each side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farky Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 Also if anyone has time to look at this and let me know if this is what I need to connect onto my snorkel I would really appreciate it as I'm not sure https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/172903822830 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Link doesn't work for me. But the plenums are quite tricky to get hold of if memory serves. All you need is a piece of plate with a tube welded to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farky Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 Maybe that would be easier. I'm just worried about getting a good watertight seal between the plate and the snorkel. This is the eBay item number if that works instead 172903822830 it looks like the right bit but i can't say for sure. I think realistically to have any chance of fitting anything on that passenger side wing I'm going to have to take the heater box out just to get to it. Or admit defeat and buy a 300tdi snorkel and run it across Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 That is the Intake for your heater. So don't buy that. There are clearly ways of making a water tight seal with a 200tdi intake but I couldnt do it. Persivere with it.....ultimately it will be cheaper than getting a new snorkel. If your throwing in the towel I can say although they don it look as neat the wing top ones save a bit of a headache... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Your intercooler pipe (the long straight one) will prohibit the fitment of most airbox arrangements, can't really see a straightforward way of connecting up the safari snorkel and incorporate an air filter without moving that pipe. Most disco conversions I've seen have the lower pipe routed differently. Can you weld? Making an adaptor flange for the wing only requires the template shape if the wing cut out and a suitable stub of pipe welded to it to allow the flexi hose connection...probably a greater chance of making this watertight than you have of the original setup. The filtration part is the headache, 200tdi airbox defender engine clamps just behind the intercooler/rad on the inner wing, the 300tdi defender airbox goes on the left of the rocker (as you are looking at it). if you're looking for a simple fix then I don't think there is one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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