Nigel Brown Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Hi Hoping someone can advise with a problem I am having with my 2012 110 2.2 Defender. A while ago, from out of nowhere, I couldn't get reverse trying to get out of a parking spot. Clutch pedal dips fine, but no way of getting into any gear. With the engine switched off, went in and out of gear no problem. Started it in gear and managed to get it home. I had a mechanic look at it, who bled the system. great, all back to normal, or so I thought. It did the same again the next day - first difficult to find a gear, then no gear at all, or I manage to bully it in with a clunk. It seems to be more a problem at low revs. I also hear fluid 'gurgling' when driving sometimes (not necessarily clutch fluid). If I start the engine in gear, it seems to clear itself for a while. I have taken to a LR specialist, and explained the symptoms; they have quoted me for a new clutch kit due to a noisy release bearing. I'm not convinced this is correct (or the same issue). I pull my camping trailer all over the place, and have never experienced any slipping, rattles or smells from the clutch. The clutch is around 60,000km old. I'm no expert at all, and maybe the clutch plate/cover/bearing is the problem, but it just seems strange that the issue seems to be hydraulic related not mechanical. Before I spend the other arm and leg on a clutch kit just wanted to hear other opinions. Any and all advise will be greatly received! many thanks Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 It sounds like one of a few things that could be happening... 1) Slave or master cylinder worn - Clutch would feel pretty similar but not enough pressure getting translated to the release bearing meaning clutch still spinning the gearbox and hard to engage gears. 2) Pressure plate fingers collapsing / some broken - A friend experienced this last year. the pressure system was working fine but the fingers on the pressure plate had effectively "sagged" and therefore the clutch release bearing moved up and settled in the new position, but as the fingers were now somewhat deformed the release bearing couldn't be pushed forward enough to release the clutch pressure and it stayed engaged and a similar end result. Gearbox still spinning so hard to select gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailysleaze Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I believe on a Puma the slave cylinder and release bearing are the same unit, so a problem with either you would just replace it anyway. You have to split the engine and box to do this. Sounds hydraulic to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Brown Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 Thanks all for the comments - it was split and the release bearing, amongst other things, found to be faulty (flange drive, g-box output shaft, clutch release adaptor on the quote). I've been assured this is the problem. Will see once It's off the lift. They are putting in a new plate and cover while they have it in half, the current clutch has done around 80,000km, half of which was through the bush pulling my camping trailer full of gear and water, so I figured sensible to do. The guys doing the job have a very good reputation around Pretoria and the Highveld in general, so I'm hoping they got it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I’m assuming the vehicle was OK after this work was done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Hunter Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Well followed up, Lightning. Too many threads are left open, which is specially annoying, and bad manners and lack of gratitude, when various forum members have contributed to solving somebody's problem. OK, rant over, I'm just getting my coat! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 On 11/22/2017 at 4:41 AM, Nigel Brown said: The guys doing the job have a very good reputation around Pretoria and the Highveld in general, so I'm hoping they got it right. Doubt he’ll be back as it was just a three day visit to the forum. A tag or post-quote might be the only way to attract attention. @Nigel Brown as that way I think he gets an email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 He could be away on a safari or working, but it does appear to be one of those occasions where an out of depth mechanic is trying to get free advice. I’m always suspicious that those who make a first post with a technical problem won’t be back, so it’s good when those that got some help return to partake in the community and even help others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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