geoffbeaumont Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Can anyone tell me how much the following weigh (minus fluids)? R380/LT77 gearbox LT230 transfer box 300Tdi engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 55-60kg 45-50kg 150-200kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Not a load of help, but for reference: ZF 4 speed auto 85kg Borg Warner T-case 45kg 3.9V8 170kg. Weights supplied by our good friends at Ashcrofts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Even less helpful, V8Bertha's R380 weighs a few grams less than standard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 LT77 - just heavy enough to make your back ache when you carry it upstairs to store in the kitchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 Even less helpful, V8Bertha's R380 weighs a few grams less than standard... About the same as mine then In fact, his probably a bit heavier than mine as mine as the lightweight 'sport' mainshaft too (with added growl) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Next question. Has anyone lifted the engine and gearbox together out of a disco (series one)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Not out but in . 200tdi and ZF auto. No t - box. You will need to have a big engine crane with good height and reach. You will also need to take the fron wheels off and put it down on the discs to get it as low as possible. (Unless you have a really big crane) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Hmm, crane would be whatever I could hire, so I wouldn't have much control over that Sound like option B is the winner - cut a hole in the transmission tunnel (the problem I'm trying to solve here, incidentally, is a siezed bell housing bolt. Top one, so not enough access to deal with it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 HSS and Speedy tend to only have big cranes/engin hoists I have taken V8's with auto box & transfure boxs in one its fiddly but can be done I wouldn't recomend it in you own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detonationretard Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Hello, newbie here, just reading through all the posts. I have had similair heartache trying to remove engine gearbox as one assembly on a V8 3 door disco. In the end I cut the top slam panel out where the bonnet catch lives. It didnt take much to make up two plates to use to refit the panel afterwards. I did this as the engine is frequently in and out of this particular vehicle, so you may not wish to go to those lengths I guess, but it is a useful mod if you are often messing about with big lumps of petrolly dieselly stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Hello, newbie here, just reading through all the posts. I have had similair heartache trying to remove engine gearbox as one assembly on a V8 3 door disco. In the end I cut the top slam panel out where the bonnet catch lives. It didnt take much to make up two plates to use to refit the panel afterwards. I did this as the engine is frequently in and out of this particular vehicle, so you may not wish to go to those lengths I guess, but it is a useful mod if you are often messing about with big lumps of petrolly dieselly stuff. Hmm...if I've got to hack bits of bodywork either way I'm definitely going the hole in the transmission tunnel route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Speak nicely to Les Brock - he as an excellent engine crane that requires no bodywork alterations and he assures me that both boxes can be liftewd with the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detonationretard Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Hmm...if I've got to hack bits of bodywork either way I'm definitely going the hole in the transmission tunnel route Do you actually want the gearbox out or is it solely because of the stuck bolt? If you remove the gearbox crossmember, support the box on a jack then undo its mounts you can GENTLY and slowly lower it a bit, you might be able to get to the offending item then? On the other hand it takes 5 mins to drill a hole and grommets are pennies - you could even fit a bath plug in incase one of your door seals springs a leak..... By the way, when I mentioned hacking the body to bits at the bonnet catch I meant at the front of the vehicle, not chopping flipping great 3 foot lumps out of the bulkhead just in case you think I am completely mad. Although it might be an interesting mod to do something like the early rangies had with the bolt in transtunnel/floor assembly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Do you actually want the gearbox out or is it solely because of the stuck bolt? If you remove the gearbox crossmember, support the box on a jack then undo its mounts you can GENTLY and slowly lower it a bit, you might be able to get to the offending item then? On the other hand it takes 5 mins to drill a hole and grommets are pennies - you could even fit a bath plug in incase one of your door seals springs a leak..... I want the gearbox out but not the engine. The catch with the hole in the floor option is that while it takes only a few minutes to cut the hole (think it'll need to be a bit bigger than just a drill job - the bolt is more or less parallel with the floor) the dash and heater assembly need to come out first... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Speak nicely to Les Brock - he as an excellent engine crane that requires no bodywork alterations and he assures me that both boxes can be liftewd with the engine. It's a thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 If you need a bigger crane I have one in Uxbridge you can borrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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