Stellaghost Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) So managed to do a bit on the axles or more correctly the diffs today due to trying to put the 404's under a lightweight I need to create distance between gearbox and diffs for the prop shafts due to 404's being 8" longer from diff centre to flange so started machining seal carrier end result regards Stephen Edited May 25, 2020 by Stellaghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 I seem to have issues putting up more than 3 or 4 pictures whilst some posts have several don't know how you do this but never mind So machined prop flange Took 18mm of it Now when built up I can shorten diff splined shaft by 28mm or just over an inch in old money Doesn't sound a lot but I need every bit I can get with trying to put the 404's under a short wheelbase regards Stephen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Could you shorten that even further if you put pull through studs into the flange for the prop shaft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 Yes I probably could take it further this is just 1st stab one of the issues is the threaded hole for the grub screw to tighten onto pinion shaft will damage the seal if I go further at the moment I am looking at drilling and tapping the pinion shaft to hold the flange in position that would allow me to weld grub screw hole up and machine down for a smooth seal surface and move it in another 20mm are the pull through studs you mention the same as landrover wheel hub bolts regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 You can machine it down and keep the grub screw position relative to shaft can’t you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 If you look at the photo there is no much scope to move it in further without filling in the grub screw hole the seal comes up to where the red line of seal grease is so about another 5mm before seal clashes with hole regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 I was meaning you can fill it in and redrill closer to the flange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 19 hours ago, Stellaghost said: That looks awfully thick for what appears to be just a seal holder? Could you take some thickness out of that and win another 20mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, landroversforever said: I was meaning you can fill it in and redrill closer to the flange. I'm an idiot yes I get what you mean I could mill a slight flat into the radius at the bottom of the flange drill and tap out I didn't include the photo on my last post so here it is regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, elbekko said: That looks awfully thick for what appears to be just a seal holder? Could you take some thickness out of that and win another 20mm? Afraid not as it has to allow for locking nuts on pinion shaft see photo regards Stephen Edited May 26, 2020 by Stellaghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Ah, yeah, no go then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 You could go even more greedy if you can get enough bolt/stud clearance and drill into the side of the flange for the grub screw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 I could but we will see once I start fitting axles and props become a real issue I am slightly concerned that flange is located with a single grub screw and no indentation on pinion shaft as yet to locate I may well bolt it on landrover style yet regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 Started making spring mounts today naturally the centre line would be where it causes inconvenience So some scrap 4" box section 1/4" thick Mount rough cut out Cleaned up and drilled Ready for welding at some point only another 3 to make regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 Spring seat in position will be buying new ones regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) A question for you esteemed gentlemen out there do you think D1 front radius arms will be strong enough to use as rear trailing arms minus the second joint after the chalk line with my portal axle conversion regards Stephen Edited June 13, 2020 by Stellaghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Got to be stronger than stock LR trailing arms. But enough for portals.... Hmm maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 I'm considering adding additional bracing to strengthen even further after I've cranked the arms they certainly seem more substantial than the rear trailing arms and yes the portals are bigger in every way but I don't have the mega weight of a unimog body and chassis above acting on them either just thought I'd throw it out there ultimately I may look at 4 link but considering a house move I would prefer to get them under the vehicle traditionally to save some time at the moment regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I’ve some spare radius arms if you need any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 Thanks for the offer but I've got a few myself plus the castor corrected ones I made for my lightweight regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 We used those arms on Mouse with Volvo portals, Jez did bend one into a nice Z-shape by hitting a tree at some speed but aside from that they're pretty damn strong. It's not the weight of the body though - it's the 300kg of axle and 100kg of wheels and tyres flapping round on the ends that stresses it, a large tyre on a portal box has a hell of a lot of leverage compared to a piddly little 35" on a straight Land Rover axle. Have you checked out Dirtydiesel's G-Wagen on 404's? He's posted a few other threads of other mog'd trucks he's built or been involved with over the years, sadly no longer posts here though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 So front radius arms cut cleaned up now just ready to crank and fit new bushes regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 So cranked the radius/trailing arms braced and new bushes fitted paint can wait whilst I decide on colour regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 Made the bump stop bits for the axle tube , hydraulics a great invention , a word of advice clamp it I didn't today and it hurts when a slitting disc bites stay safe guys regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 And the rest regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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