Les Brock Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Hi all, Had a seep on the bottom oil cooler pipe, and never 100% happy with pipe route anyway with a "make-do" pipe, so checked and ordered the PBP500200 pipe which is supposed to do the 200 and 300Tdi if I've read it right but its to short by about 6 inches Looked everywhere and cant find a longer one or a part number without having to get one made if possible Any ideas ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 on a Defender spec 200tdi there are 2 sets of oil cooler hose/pipe assemblies, depends on which oil filter head you have. 1 type has a rounded bell type end to the pipes & matching seat in the oil filter head Page 614 items 1 & 2 in http://www.retroanaconda.com/landrover/parts_books/110/7_exhaust_cooling_heating_p580-666.pdf other has a straight end with a O ring seal. ESR1912 & ESR1913 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 (edited) Hi Ralph, Many thanks, mine is the later one with the O-ring seal, I have the ESR1912 IRC but its all the wrong angle or to short or something to sweep round correctly, no matter how it goes in it kinks the pipe or twists or its a real rubbish one Edited May 12, 2018 by Les Brock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Post some photos. I've changed mine and they fit perfect. PBP500200 appears to only be for 300TDIs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 Will get some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 Excuse messy bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Took a pic of mine for you hook shaped one in the top ESR1913 and the right angled bend one ESR1912 in the side . Hope this helps . Ian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 Top one is what I think is right one but it just kinks or twists, bottom is the 300Tdi one which is to short, might just have to get another and try it, where yours goes in with the front return pipe pointing towards the front , mine will only go vertical with a kink, or slightly rearwards where it kinks "and" twists Cant believe mine is that different if that fails custom one it is .............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Just taken these of my hoses ESR1912 & ESR1913. yours should sit in about the same positions. I need to replace these hoses with new one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 I reckon your old hoses is made wrong, the oil filter head head should be almost right angle to the oil cooler/radiator end, then it shouldn't twist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 Cheers chaps, Mine is sat in the 300Tdi position so sat forward of the normal defender 200tdi position I don't think that is helping things for one min! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Don't forget the 300tdi is about 4 inches further forward in the engine bay so anything that says it fits both is wrong. 45 has the non o ring type and a converter to fit the radiator. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Ah, being sat forward quite a bit will make a difference in the 1912/1913 style hoses, surprised the genuine 300tdi hoses won't work though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 Mine seems to want to be half way between both lengths ! 300Tdi one is about 2 inches short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 is your radiator in the normal position or has it been move forward ? custom pipes/hoses maybe be the answer then. I was thinking these might work but only with a LT77 gearbox & 300tdi https://www.steveparkers.com/product/spck300ocp-oil-cooler-pipe-kit-300tdi-conversion-in-90-110/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 Rad in standard position, might give Steve Parkers a call Monday anyway to see what they do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 I had mine made up by a local hydraulics specialist as I needed non-standard lengths and to swap the front sections over to fit the Discovery engine into my 109. They cut the old swaged flanges off to reuse each steep pipe section, replacing the rubber hoses only The swagined sleeves are tighter and the hose higher quality, and over a decade on there isn't the slightest trace of seating oil or hose perishing. Turned out far cheaper than buying new and also gave me a perfect fit. I recommend you try doing the same thing with your local hydraulics suppliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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