roamingyak Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Any suggestions for something lighter/smaller than a NATO hitch when you just want to recover/pull things rather than tow a trailer from the back of a Defender please? I'm replacing the rear chassis cross member so seems a good idea to save some weight and hopefully knock myself in the groin less with its replacement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I love the Southdown tank guard as it give good protection and a very sturdy recovery point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn668 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Something like this? https://www.paddockspares.com/knb100640-towing-jaw-3-5-tonne.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 or a 5tonne 4 bolt towing jaw from bradley doublelock https://www.paddockspares.com/201691-universal-coupling-ball-and-pin-5tonne.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roamingyak Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 Thanks Martin (Motorhead!), looks ok, but 4 bolts would be better than two. Western, definitely not with the groin whacking ball in such a protruding position (and I don't have any use for the ball...) Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zardos Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 4 Bolt centre recover point from Terrafirma ?http://www.terrafirma4x4store.co.uk/towing_equipTF750 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I looked at the welding on that I concluded there's no hope I would ever trust it in a deep bogged, or any other recovery situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 A pair of jate rings works well. Â For general dragging you can just loop a strap through one, or use both for heavier recovery. Â Weight almost nothing and well out of the way. I've got a few spare I can post out for cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 10 hours ago, roamingyak said: Thanks Martin (Motorhead!), looks ok, but 4 bolts would be better than two. Â Why? If it's suitably rated it will be fine. Many 2 bolt jaws use bigger bolts than the 4 used on other ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Eightpot said: A pair of jate rings works well. Â For general dragging you can just loop a strap through one, or use both for heavier recovery. Â Weight almost nothing and well out of the way. I've got a few spare I can post out for cheap. Jate rings are ok, but do require you to crawl under a bit to attach to them. Which off road may be an issue if they are buried in the ground or under water. You also need to have some way of attaching to them, meaning you need to carry shackles about with you. And you really should use them with either a bridle or long enough rope to attach to both sides of the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I don't think he wants it for pay & play days in a quarry though, and a shackle isn't really a problem to carry, I just leave one on the jate ring.  I'd rather risk getting dirty knees strapping up a pair of jate rings than trusting one of those welded U bolt attachments anyways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 12 hours ago, roamingyak said: Thanks Martin (Motorhead!), looks ok, but 4 bolts would be better than two. Western, definitely not with the groin whacking ball in such a protruding position (and I don't have any use for the ball...) Thanks! You could find a 2nd hand item and chop the ball off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zardos Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 23 hours ago, roamingyak said: Thanks Martin (Motorhead!), looks ok, but 4 bolts would be better than two. Western, definitely not with the groin whacking ball in such a protruding position (and I don't have any use for the ball...) Thanks! Or just turn it upside down so the ball is on the bottom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zardos Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Another options are receiver towbar mount with shackle attachment e.g.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RECOVERY-HITCH-TOW-BAR-RECEIVER-TOWBAR-4X4-5T-BOW-SHACKLE-FASTPOST-WARRANTY-/222275871004 Or I have used something likehttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-recovery-Swivel-Shackle-DB1322/321077261238 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat2495 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 There is a version of the jaw that Western posted without the standard tow ball, if that helps https://www.trailertek.com/bradley-towing-jaw-5000-kg-capacity  and it's even on sale! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, mat2495 said: There is a version of the jaw that Western posted without the standard tow ball, if that helps https://www.trailertek.com/bradley-towing-jaw-5000-kg-capacity  and it's even on sale! That is the one I was looking for on the Bradley doublelock  website but couldn't find it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roamingyak Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 Another on here, I'm spoilt for choice 😉https://www.sahara4x4.com/b2c/producto/RA01247/2/rear-swivel-ring-gold-style-for-land-rover-defender What is the advantage of having a shackle through a metal rod (as below) as opposed to a pin or just a solid loop as per the examples above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roamingyak Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 This one also seems popular, made by Britpart I believe? https://www.jgs4x4.co.uk/land-rover-swivel-shackle-recovery-eye-bolt-on-db1322/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roamingyak Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 10:53 AM, Chicken Drumstick said: Jate rings are ok, but do require you to crawl under a bit to attach to them. Which off road may be an issue if they are buried in the ground or under water. You also need to have some way of attaching to them, meaning you need to carry shackles about with you. And you really should use them with either a bridle or long enough rope to attach to both sides of the vehicle. Thanks for the suggestion, but I have a (Aluminium) Safety Devices fuel tank guard, and suspect it would get in the way, or at least the edges of it would chaff if pulling on an angle...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I have the type that Zardos suggested above with the hoop. I can't remember what brand it is but the welding is good and it has served me well for tow recovery and acting as an anchor for winching and snatch blocks. Simple and effective, it's what I recommend. KISS is a good ethos to follow. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I bought a galvanised version rather than zinc and passivated, so it looks like this after 8 salty winters 😊 Mo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Equipe used to make one like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanuki Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 There is a version of the Bradley jaw-and-pin hitch where the top of the pin is a standard towball. Very convenient ! Rated to 5000Kg - should be strong enough! https://multec.co.uk/shop/tractor-hitch-lifting-attachments/bradley-ball-pin-tow-hitch-eu-approved-5000kg-swl/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 How about the Land Rover genuine part recovery ring? Part No NRC5396 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnoK Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 18 hours ago, Tanuki said: There is a version of the Bradley jaw-and-pin hitch where the top of the pin is a standard towball. Very convenient ! Rated to 5000Kg - should be strong enough! https://multec.co.uk/shop/tractor-hitch-lifting-attachments/bradley-ball-pin-tow-hitch-eu-approved-5000kg-swl/ I have this on my D2, but I would never use it for a recovery point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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