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I have the set up as the attached photo, two separate seats. I believe these are the same seats as used in series Land Rovers.  I’m looking to fit a centre seat (Which is an optional extra) but don’t know what seat brackets I need. Any ideas please? 

  

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In a Series 2 or 2A the brackets for the centre seat are exactly the same as the ones for the outer passenger seat. There is no fore and aft or back angle adjustment.

Ahh, he says, thinking a bit harder. The bracket fitting between the side seat and the centre seat isa single br acket, mirrored down its centre line and so serving the two seats.

The 88, as originally equipped, had three fixed seats and had the brackets listed here.
Support for front seat cushion, outer, RH    ..    ..1    331007
Support for front seat cushion, outer, LH    ..    ..1    331008
Support for front seat, centre    ..    ..2    331006  (1 off on 109).
331006 is the 'double bracket' that fitted in the gaps between both outer seats and the centre seat.
You will see that only one is specified with the 109, that was because the 109 drivers seat had sliders , as the one in your picture.

So, to sum up, you will move the RH bracket for the outer seat over to support the RH side of the centre seat.
You need to accquire a single 331006 dual bracket which will support the LH side of the outer seat, and the RH side of the centre seat.

Some people will look at the brackets and decide, with a bit of fabrication skils, you can adapt any old seat bracket, but hopefully that won't be necessary.

Struth, I just seen the prices asked for new, from John Richards Surplus and rusty / tatty from ebay. I Google searched for '331006 seat'.

Good luck with your search.

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5 hours ago, David Sparkes said:

In a Series 2 or 2A the brackets for the centre seat are exactly the same as the ones for the outer passenger seat. There is no fore and aft or back angle adjustment.

Ahh, he says, thinking a bit harder. The bracket fitting between the side seat and the centre seat isa single br acket, mirrored down its centre line and so serving the two seats.

The 88, as originally equipped, had three fixed seats and had the brackets listed here.
Support for front seat cushion, outer, RH    ..    ..1    331007
Support for front seat cushion, outer, LH    ..    ..1    331008
Support for front seat, centre    ..    ..2    331006  (1 off on 109).
331006 is the 'double bracket' that fitted in the gaps between both outer seats and the centre seat.
You will see that only one is specified with the 109, that was because the 109 drivers seat had sliders , as the one in your picture.

So, to sum up, you will move the RH bracket for the outer seat over to support the RH side of the centre seat.
You need to accquire a single 331006 dual bracket which will support the LH side of the outer seat, and the RH side of the centre seat.

Some people will look at the brackets and decide, with a bit of fabrication skils, you can adapt any old seat bracket, but hopefully that won't be necessary.

Struth, I just seen the prices asked for new, from John Richards Surplus and rusty / tatty from ebay. I Google searched for '331006 seat'.

Good luck with your search.

Great informative reply, thank you very much. Bit expensive aren’t they 😳

just to clarify, will it need a double type bracket on either side of the centre seat? 

Ill start my searching! 

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4 minutes ago, 14Platoon said:

just to clarify, will it need a double type bracket on either side of the centre seat?

No, because there is no need to support the drivers seat, that has it's sliding base so cannot be linked to the static centre seat.

Regards.

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1 hour ago, David Sparkes said:

No, because there is no need to support the drivers seat, that has it's sliding base so cannot be linked to the static centre seat.

Regards.

Aha I see. Perfect thank you 🙏 

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News seats have arrived and got the two outer seats in.......Maybe I should have looked at my frames first. I have sliders on both outer seats (assumed it would only be the drivers seat)  but in my haste have already ordered the double bracket as described above. 

Question, Do I now order a fixed bracket for the passenger seat and do away with the passenger slider, if I do this then I’m assuming there will be a height difference between the centre passenger against the drivers seat which is on sliders also? 

Lastly shall I just not bother with a centre seat (which looks really nice when I did a mock up)? 

Ps I have no seat frame for the centre seat 🤦🏻‍♂️

Cheers 

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Having even a small child occupy the centre seat is a real nuisance when driving, so unless you really love the aesthetic, it'd be best to leave it out and fit a small cubby or the plastic tray from the commercial vehicles to tidy things up.  But having the empty space makes climbing to and from the rear much easier than if you fit a seat or cubby.

If you have the bracket I suspect, a double top hat section with two seat back pivot brackets, then you could just run a thin blade down the middle to split it in two for the centre seat and leave the existing adjustable bases as they are.

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49 minutes ago, Snagger said:

Having even a small child occupy the centre seat is a real nuisance when driving, so unless you really love the aesthetic, it'd be best to leave it out and fit a small cubby or the plastic tray from the commercial vehicles to tidy things up.  But having the empty space makes climbing to and from the rear much easier than if you fit a seat or cubby.

If you have the bracket I suspect, a double top hat section with two seat back pivot brackets, then you could just run a thin blade down the middle to split it in two for the centre seat and leave the existing adjustable bases as they are.

Hmm yes some things to think about. You’re right in saying that it’s pretty handy to jump over the back. I would obviously still need to sort a seat frame out as well. 

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The centre seat should sit down straight onto the top hat sections.  The seat back is fitted the same way as your existing backs.  There really is very little to the non-adjustable early seating.

The MoD left the centre seat out specifically to make clambering into the back easier.  It does give you somewhere to dump a medium sized pack or bag, too.  Swings and roundabouts, but having originally had a centre seat and replaced it with a cubby, I'd not go back.

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2 hours ago, Snagger said:

The centre seat should sit down straight onto the top hat sections.  The seat back is fitted the same way as your existing backs.  There really is very little to the non-adjustable early seating.

The MoD left the centre seat out specifically to make clambering into the back easier.  It does give you somewhere to dump a medium sized pack or bag, too.  Swings and roundabouts, but having originally had a centre seat and replaced it with a cubby, I'd not go back.

Doesn't the cubby box fit nice and neat or isn't it.....gappy around the edges🤔

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It has gaps along each side to make space for the seat belt buckles and, presumable, for the larger driver...  When I replaced the basic SIII seating in my 109 with Defender front seats, I used the inboard holes in the seat base of each hole pair for the steel top hat "rails" to fit the new seats, so they're mounted a couple of inches further inboard than normal.  That precludes a centre seat, but the standard cubby still fits with comfortable space for  the buckles, but it also gives me plenty of space on my right hand side, especially for my shoulder and elbow, which are no longer pressed against B-pillar or door.

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On 12/19/2018 at 12:35 PM, Snagger said:

Having even a small child occupy the centre seat is a real nuisance when driving, so unless you really love the aesthetic, it'd be best to leave it out and fit a small cubby or the plastic tray from the commercial vehicles to tidy things up.  But having the empty space makes climbing to and from the rear much easier than if you fit a seat or cubby.

If you have the bracket I suspect, a double top hat section with two seat back pivot brackets, then you could just run a thin blade down the middle to split it in two for the centre seat and leave the existing adjustable bases as they are

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Somehow I manage to fit the centre seat with no extra brackets. It’s squeezed tight in between the other two seats and sits on top of both existing rails or rather the edges of the existing sliders. It’s purely for aesthetics but I’ve tested it and it’s pretty solid as well......I’m happy with it now. C073A4BF-338D-49A0-A1E6-2ED394D7B8BC.thumb.jpeg.18c3edbd9c6260804cb4ff4bcaca29bf.jpeg

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