Green200tdi Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 Im updating the main fuse box from glass fuses to blade and as i have a working td5 electronic speedo and gauges in the 110 at the moment its all wires cut and put together with blue push pull terminals from halfords (don't look very good) lol so be great to sort it once and for all, the old loom had melted a few years back when my dad owned it and i had to by pass the light main switch wiring on to a made up fuse board but yes im having a go try and keep what i can no cutting the new loom ie new wing looms to front lights and so on will all plug in, you say the ignition switch is different, if i get a td5 switch will it slot in to the original 110 barrel? i really do appreciate the advice you all give its not going in till the summer so lots of time to think and get replacement upgrades like wiper and indicator stalks and so on , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 41 minutes ago, western said: It was PaulMc who replied to your earlier question, a suggestion -- I can wrap these 3 posts into a new one called something like "Td5 loom into a pre 1991 earlier vehicle" Then it could be a easier for you to have all the info in one post & reference source for others & can be linked to the Tech Archive. cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 All merged into this thread now, so just add any additional questions or info to here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 22 hours ago, Scotts90 said: So, are you fitting a td5 loom to a non-td5 engined version? If so, the ignition barrel switches are different...which you've already sussed out. The td5 looms have no ignition triggered heater plug wiring as the ecu takes care of this on the td5 engine. Straightforward enough to work around though. wiring to switch as below... im hoping the td5 switch will fit the excising 1986 110 barrel, is that right scott? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 If I get time I'll have a look at the the early and td5 barrels in the shed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 Great stuff,👍 the more info we get on this post the better, really looking forward to doing this fit now as it’s all starting to fall in to place, under seat fuse box and pass head light loom turned up this morning along with the interior light loom so just a few bits left to get,I’m going to replace my wiper motor while the dash is all down too if I get this right can only add value to my 110 😊 and more help to those who want to upgrade there looms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Switch pack won't swap over, completely different receiver in the bottom of the barrel. So the above is a 2001 td5 barrel with switch installed. and this is a comparison of the two, the upper one is a Td/TDI era barrel, the lower is the td5 one with the switch removed. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 so its new barrel and switch? lets hope it fits a 110 steering collum, failing than new connectors to the original switch than you great help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Yes, newer barrel and switch is a straight bolt on to the column affair...you just need to find a suitable method of removing the security shear bolts on the barrel clamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 Cool thank you, either hammer and chisel like the garage did with my 90 few years back or angle grinder 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) so its new barrel and switch? lets hope it fits a 110 steering collum, failing than new connectors to the original switch than you great help Have had a look it would seem the DEFENDER barrel and switch is good for my land rover, Edited January 2, 2019 by roverv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Been having a look thu my new loom (planing ahead) 😂 i only need one wire to the starter motor and the main from battery live, I’ve found this plug (see photos) but it has 3 wires in it the brown with red tracer is live if I put a live to it at the relay end so my question is what do the other do? The other two are brown/ grey thick and just brown thin🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 That looks decidedly orange to me, rather than red? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailysleaze Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 The connector is this https://www.lrworkshop.com/connectors/defender-2002my/C0449 Brown/grey is fed from Fuse 29, intended for the A/C cooling fan The thinner brown is fed by the ECM to a header (C0294 under the RH seat) that powers a lot of things like EGR modulator, glow plugs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Bowie69 said: That looks decidedly orange to me, rather than red? No just had another look definitely red🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, dailysleaze said: The connector is this https://www.lrworkshop.com/connectors/defender-2002my/C0449 Brown/grey is fed from Fuse 29, intended for the A/C cooling fan The thinner brown is fed by the ECM to a header (C0294 under the RH seat) that powers a lot of things like EGR modulator, glow plugs... So what one is starter motor ignition switch to turn over the engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailysleaze Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) The brown/red one on your connector is for the starter solenoid. It's fed by the starter relay and ignition switch. The feed to turn the starter motor comes direct from the battery. Edited January 9, 2019 by dailysleaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, dailysleaze said: The brown/red one. It's fed by the starter relay, which is fed by the ignition switch before that. So I’m right I’m thinking Brown/ red can be used to the starter to turn engine over ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailysleaze Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, roverv8 said: So I’m right I’m thinking Brown/ red can be used to the starter to turn engine over ? Sorry I had already updated my answer as it might not have been clear enough. Brown/red is just for the starter solenoid, not to turn the starter motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, dailysleaze said: Sorry I had already updated my answer as it might not have been clear enough. Brown/red is just for the starter solenoid, not to turn the starter motor. Cool, sorry must of crossed that’s great thank you 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Been on that web page lrworkkshop brilliant page, Right think I’m there just one more the speedo transducer it’s 3 wires in an oval plug, see photo, is there a separate extension to the loom somewhere as can’t find it may plug in to a square block or something 🤔 mat a guess I’d say it’s right hand side of loom drivers side?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 The speedo transducer connector (C0195) is on the engine harness. It's wired via the main harness to engine harness connectors C0448/C0162 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Cool thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Ok anyone recognize these these 3 plugs?🤔 gray multi plug and green are alarm? and the one below is for the throttle peddle? am i right? Edited January 10, 2019 by roverv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 7 hours ago, PaulMc said: The speedo transducer connector (C0195) is on the engine harness. It's wired via the main harness to engine harness connectors C0448/C0162 so at a guess its just 3 wires to the transducer from the harness for the speedo signal? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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