Anderzander Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 As we get close to the production of Projekt Grenadier ‘successor to the Defender’ - I thought we could perhaps share updates? Article here calls out: https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-6821795/Jim-Ratcliffes-Ineos-Projekt-Grenadier-4X4-use-BMW-engines.html Using current BMW twin turbo engines - 242bhp 2.0l petrol and 261bhp 3.0l diesel Separate chassis and alloy panels leather seats for material durability - but a minimal interior, including drain plugs so it can be hosed down. 3.5 tonne towing capacity £30-£40k price Goes into production 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 So they are going to build 25-30,000 vehicles a year and start selling them next year, but they haven't decided where they will be building them yet. Pie in the sky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Lets hope it is more a case of ambitious plans meeting real world difficulties, I wish the guy well, I look forward to seeing a prototype. I really hope thr rush to get it builtt doesn't affect the build quality ambition, that would be a shame. Subscribed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 I wonder how that works - a while back they reported that Mercedes company was the assembly partner - so perhaps it’s just not been decided which of their sites will be used? Or perhaps the supply chain and design is all in place and the build is just going to be assembly? He advertised a load of Procurement positions ages ago / so he has the staff. I’m hopeful for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanuki Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 If they want to start selling them next year they'll be appointing their sales/dealer/support network and financial-partners [nobody in business buys vehicles these days - they're all leased because of the cashflow/tax advantages] now. I guess they'll all be under non-disclosure-agreements - but you don't build, provision and train the underlying networks to finance and support 30,000-a-year sales [presumably globally] without it showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 Unless they are doing the Tesla - direct from the factory model ? I don’t suppose we’d see signs of it then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 MB Tech is the engineering company - they were a subsidiary of Mercedes Benz. https://www.akka-technologies.com/en/newsroom/project-grenadier-ineos-automotive-and-akka-technologies-team-up-to-develop-a-new-4x4-off They mention Ineos in their financial statements too: The Germany Business Unit also made a good start to the year. It reported revenue of €252.0 million in the first half of 2018, with organic growth of 3.5%. Growth was mainly driven by the signing of contracts with Bosch, Continental, INEOS, Porsche and Volkswagen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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