hardus77 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Hello everyone, Please excuse me if this stuff is covered in the FAQ. Wasn't actually able to find one for this sub. I am currently stationed in the UK, and will be PCSing back to the US shortly. I have a beat up old 1991 Defender 110, which was formerly a radio truck for the 154 Scottish Regiment, or one of its subordinate squadrons. The VIN for the Defender is SALLDHAC7HA903350, which would indicate that it has an 12J series engine. My certificate of authenticity from the British Motor Museum says that she started life with an 11J engine. Reading up on British military Land Rovers, in that time period she should have had a 19J engine, which she does. I filed a FOIA request to the British Army with all the information I have to (hopefully) get a MERLIN and JAMES report, which should illuminate a lot of her maintenance and service history. Haven't heard back from them yet, but it has only been 6 days, and they have 20 to respond. Am I going to get a like for like engine swap paper done to get her back in the states? Am I totally buggered? How in the world do I even get a like for like paper? Posting this exact same thing over on. Thanks in advance guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 19j engines were not fitted to UK military land rovers, only to civilian vehicles, 11j & 12j are both 4 cylinder diesel non turbo engines, quite usually for UK military to swap engines during a big base maintenance scheduled servicing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffernutter Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I seem to remember seeing somewhere (and my memory could be playing tricks) that the US doesn''t like the early LRs and they do not meet their strict "crashworthiness" requirements. As a historic vehicle you may be OK, but I vaguely remember seeing LRs being crushed by the US customs people! This is a topic that came up after a quick Google https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=1593182 I think you need to be very sure the paperwork is 100% watertight! Cheers Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 The crushed land rovers were most often due to people trying to pass off TDCIs/TD5s as > 25 years old, clearly where vehicle identity is not as stated, I would crush them too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) Having imported a 1984 Land Rover into the US. From experience, once the vehicle is over 25 years of age a lot of the regulations no longer apply. However one that it is worth mentioning is the requirement for the engine. It must be either: The original engine An engine of the same type as the original engine Or An engine that has passed USA epa emission tests. I took a CSW, which had originally been equipped with a 3.5 V8, carb engine into the country, however I managed to get it in with a 4.2 V8 engine under the bonnet. I had fitted it with carbs but it would have qualified under either of the regs other than original engine. The relevant paperwork is readily available from the relevant US govt department and relatively easy to complete. Oh and because it is an ex military vehicle you will probably require an export licence from UK government. It might be worth your while to contact either P.A. Blanchard or L. Jackson. https://www.pablanchard.co.uk http://mob.ljacksonandco.com/logistics.html As mentioned above 19J engines were not fitted to military vehicles. The 12J and 11J engines are the same basic type though there are some surprising differences, internally. Edited May 16, 2019 by neil110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 I import/export vehicles around the world. To import to the US, everything needs to correlate with the VIN - same body type, engine type, gearbox type, which side the steering wheel is on. It doesn't need to be the original engine, just the original type (12j), you will not be able to import it to the US with a 19j engine, they will check and will confiscate the car if there is an anomaly. US customs are well versed in Defenders and will look for and find discrepancies. Paperwork needs to be correct - VIN and engine number must match what is on the V5. If your engine number no longer matches what's on the V5, apply to DVLA to have it ammended. Make sure the VIN number actually matches what's on the V5 as well, I've found a surprising number of errors. Make sure the VIN is clearly stamped on the chassis - military vehicles often had chassis changes with unstamped chassis. You dont need a military export licence, dont present the heritage certificate and don't try and sneak a 300tdi engine in the back of the car.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Contact Doug Crowther and let him handle the import. He has imported a thousand Defenders. http://www.dividingcreekimports.com/ As above, if it has a 19J, you will need to get an 11J back in there. Or just buy a different Defender. You can import any original 200TDI and some early 300TDIs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) .With reference to export licence requirement. http://www.milweb.net/features/military_vehicle_export_licence.php http://armyuk.info/export.php Here is a land rover similar to the vehicle you would like to export, included in the listing is the type of export licence you might require. http://armyuk.info/equip.php?ID=315 Edited May 18, 2019 by neil110 Additional information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardus77 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 12:04 PM, hardus77 said: Hello everyone, Please excuse me if this stuff is covered in the FAQ. Wasn't actually able to find one for this sub. I am currently stationed in the UK, and will be PCSing back to the US shortly. I have a beat up old 1991 Defender 110, which was formerly a radio truck for the 154 Scottish Regiment, or one of its subordinate squadrons. The VIN for the Defender is SALLDHAC7HA903350, which would indicate that it has an 12J series engine. My certificate of authenticity from the British Motor Museum says that she started life with an 11J engine. Reading up on British military Land Rovers, in that time period she should have had a 19J engine, which she does.https://192168ll.onl/https://xender.vip/ https://testmyspeed.onl/ I filed a FOIA request to the British Army with all the information I have to (hopefully) get a MERLIN and JAMES report, which should illuminate a lot of her maintenance and service history. Haven't heard back from them yet, but it has only been 6 days, and they have 20 to respond. Am I going to get a like for like engine swap paper done to get her back in the states? Am I totally buggered? How in the world do I even get a like for like paper? Posting this exact same thing over on. Thanks in advance guys! my issue got solved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertieTheDefender Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 @hardus77 Hi. Did you get a Heritage Certificate before importing your Defender? I'm USN and about to return to the US from a tour in the UK with my 25 YO Defender 110 and would appreciate any advice/lessons learned you may be able to offer. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 You don't need a heritage certificate, just the V5. The VIN/engine numbers should match what is on the V5, and the vehicle should match the details encoded into the VIN number, eg a rhd 110 station wagon with 5 speed gearbox and turbo diesel engine. The engine type in the car needs to be correct for the model year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.