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4 bolt PAS steering box ....

Last year it started to leak, ....

I fitted a new seal kit, ....

hasn't lasted 5 minutes !! .., so the shaft has had it and I need a completely new unit

If new who / where are the best to get, prices ??

if Reconditioned same question ?

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Speedisleeve any use? Or is it beyond that.

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I read somewhere that these aren't made new any longer !

When Mo needed one a while back he was told Britpart was the only official source as Adwest weren't selling to anyone else at the time...

If you can get one, it may be Britpart, with Adwest on the stamp, but no telling what the final quality may be.... 

 

Paddocks are advertising new....

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£786 ! 😨😲

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As someone who worked for Adwest about 20 years ago, I know that about one third of all Adwest recon boxes failed within twelve to eighteen months. Fundamentally once you have wear on the sector shaft then the box will always leak again.

I don't know if anyone is machining up new sector shafts etc., but I would put money on the failure rate of recon boxes nowadays being just the same as it was. Mind you looking at the prices its probably worth going recon and hoping you get one of the two thirds that doesn't fail!

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Haven't used them but a guy from D&A Steering Ltd in Birmingham visited my workshop once a few years ago, pricelist looked good and they're still going which is usually a good sign.. 

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Zeus seal kit. Works well as it puts the seal against a different part of the shaft so works around the worn shaft. I had one in mine for years before I did the P38 conversion.

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10 hours ago, RedLineMike said:

nissan patrol...............

The whole rusting vehicle or use the steering box as an alternative?

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1 hour ago, V8 Freak said:

The whole rusting vehicle or use the steering box as an alternative?

steering box as an alternative

Some fab work needed to fit it, but on the whole its a better box than anything LR produces

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Just had a look and they do look similar....

Like you say, some fab work to bring the location points out from the chassis rails but other than that connections wouldn't be too hard !

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Any idea what other works/parts are required to fit one of those Daan?

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The bolt pattern is obviously different from the standard box, but with some fabwork that should be ok. On the 70th anniversary, it looks like there is a spacer plate to bolt between the box and chassis. I have never seen a 70th anniversary Landy, so I am guessing. The orientation is different on the P38, so the idle shaft sits outside the chassis rail, as opposed to inside the rail for the defender. I have got a LHD p38 box for this reason, so the idler shaft sits again on the inside (of a RHD vehicle).

I can post a picky tonight if you like. Plan is to fit the box over the winter months, hopefully for my landy to be used again next summer.

Daan

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Hmmm the pas box on the 70th isnt the same as the box pictures above... just from comparing the pictures.

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2 hours ago, Maverik said:

Hmmm the pas box on the 70th isnt the same as the box pictures above... just from comparing the pictures.

The 70th is a P38 box I believe.

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The P38 input shaft splines are the same as on the Adwest box, I think.  Certainly, the P38 lower column UJ fits a Defender upper column perfectly.

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