Tim2809 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Got a 1989 110 originally a 2.5td running original narrow arm solid dis. Axle. Looking at replacing front callipers believe 1 of the part numbers is Rtc5573 Have changed front discs and pads with ferodo pads, rear mintex shoes and Delphi cylinders. New master cylinder and servo tested and works well but when towing the brakes are poor. The front caliper pistons were not as easy as I would of liked when pushing back in My question is, Is there a more modern/better caliper from a newer model that's a direct fit before ordering a new pair. I want to eventually fit discs the the rear salisbury axle but want to sort front axle first. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 110 front calipers without ABS& non vented, vented ones are different numbers, are all the same, 4 piston 46mm diameter. a refurbish with new stainless steel pistons & seals will restore good braking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim2809 Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 That's good to know, as the part numbers change through out the years I was unsure. Might refurb mine with stainless pistons then if they are all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 from 1987 on front calipers [non vented] were LH RTC5573 & RH RTC5572 for vehicles with rear drum brakes. from vehicles fited with rear disc brakes the front calipers changed numbers to STC1266 RH & STC1267 LH, these ae for vented front disc so if you need new calipers for non vented fronts use the RTC part numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim2809 Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 11:11 PM, western said: from 1987 on front calipers [non vented] were LH RTC5573 & RH RTC5572 for vehicles with rear drum brakes. from vehicles fited with rear disc brakes the front calipers changed numbers to STC1266 RH & STC1267 LH, these ae for vented front disc so if you need new calipers for non vented fronts use the RTC part numbers Cheers that's the numbers I came up with. Next project will be fitting rear disc to rear axle and presuming I have to change the master and servo to a 300tdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 You could but not necessary, I converted my drum Salisbury to disc, kept the servo & master as it was, haven't had a lack of braking force or lack of fluid capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim2809 Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 8/26/2019 at 10:35 PM, western said: You could but not necessary, I converted my drum Salisbury to disc, kept the servo & master as it was, haven't had a lack of braking force or lack of fluid capacity. That's even better news as I put a nos master on it earlier in the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I did add the low brake fluid float cap from a later vehicle, it is connected 1 wire to earth, 2nd wire to the existing PDWA valve wiring which is black with a white trace, you can find it in the loom where all the wiring goes into the bulkhead to instrument pack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, western said: I did add the low brake fluid float cap from a later vehicle, it is connected 1 wire to earth, 2nd wire to the existing PDWA valve wiring which is black with a white trace, you can find it in the loom where all the wiring goes into the bulkhead to instrument pack Got a part number for the cap Ralph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 NTC4414 https://www.brit-car.co.uk/search.php?query=NTC4414+&xBrand=&part_type=&xSupplierID=&product-sort=&xPerPage=10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 1:02 AM, Tim2809 said: That's good to know, as the part numbers change through out the years I was unsure. Might refurb mine with stainless pistons then if they are all the same That is my recommendation. Even decent callipers will get rusty pistons within four or five years, so it’s better to spend the money on a permanent cure. I have Zeus Engineering stainless pitons on two vehicles, and they’re superb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I have a full set of stainless pistons to refurb my calipers got them via ebay shop of Autopost, set includes the seals for each piston as well. & rubber covers for the bleed screws. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LANDROVER-DEFENDER-110-BRAKE-CALIPER-PISTON-FULL-SET-STAINLESS-STEEL-CPK12801ST-/264316963386?hash=item3d8a84ca3a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim2809 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 Quick update. As time is short at the moment I fitted 2 new cheap calipers with intension of rebuilding mine. Fitted new ebc pads as my original ferrodo were worn at angles which proves my theory of pistons partially seized. Result is a sore head as I dabbed the brakes when moving up the drive and nutting the steering wheel. I've suffered poor brakes and just put down to an old vehicle, can't believe the difference even before New pads settled in and a trailer with 2.6t on the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Which colour EBc pads did you use? I used green on my RRC and have been very pleased with the results. Quite a few people said they had problems, though. The yellow are meant to be very effective but faster wearing, and the red are just of right motorsports. I think they also do a long lasting blue type. Glad you got good results and can now see how unfairly maligned LR brakes are. The same applies to the steering, which while anything but sporty should be firm, direct and free of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I have mixed views of Ebc green stuff. Twice I have had the pad material separate from the backing. They work satisfactorily, but don't seem better than Ferodo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Snagger said: the red are just of right motorsports. I use them in my Audi, no track action, no brake dust, stops well, no warm up time like I have had with Ferodo before, and no fade either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I’m pretty sure EBC state somewhere, packaging, website or whatever, that red are strictly for track use. I may be mistaken, or things may have changed in the last few years, of course. They should give superb stopping, but I wonder if they wear much faster as the inevitable compromise that must be made... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim2809 Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) On 9/6/2019 at 4:22 PM, Snagger said: Which colour EBc pads did you use? I used green on my RRC and have been very pleased with the results. Quite a few people said they had problems, though. The yellow are meant to be very effective but faster wearing, and the red are just of right motorsports. I think they also do a long lasting blue type. Glad you got good results and can now see how unfairly maligned LR brakes are. The same applies to the steering, which while anything but sporty should be firm, direct and free of play. Running ebc green stuff When I fitted ferrodo all the pistons were free and easy to push back but they never had the bite or ability to stop as I expected. I always ran mintex til they changed compound and then squeal. As for wear I'm expecting 6 months from them due to Miles I do but £25 every 6 months is worth having brakes that work Edited September 8, 2019 by Tim2809 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 11 hours ago, Snagger said: I’m pretty sure EBC state somewhere, packaging, website or whatever, that red are strictly for track use. I may be mistaken, or things may have changed in the last few years, of course. They should give superb stopping, but I wonder if they wear much faster as the inevitable compromise that must be made... Quote The Redstuff is EBC's flagship street use pad. Low dust compound with minimal brake rotor wear.. No, not race. orange is full race, blue track day. https://www.ebcbrakeshop.co.uk/?gclid=CjwKCAjwzdLrBRBiEiwAEHrAYiI5VXBVOrbpU7snHI6x0wkw0wWUUpMLBw_wcKvGqwJHxy2BPZy2vBoCl1wQAvD_BwE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I evidently remembered it all backwards. I though the blue was the “economy” long lasting version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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