steve b Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 10 hours ago, landroversforever said: On the subject of the brake callipers.... I can highly recommend BiggRed.... they did a beautiful job refurbing mine. .....they seem to be lasting ok Steve b 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, steve b said: .....they seem to be lasting ok Steve b For sure! not had any issues with dirt, salt, or wear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, landroversforever said: For sure! not had any issues with dirt, salt, or wear Only dust... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, daveturnbull said: Only dust... Not even dust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 I'm too tight to pay someone to do them! Will get one out of the electrolysis bath tonight, dry it off and give it a quick shot blast to clean off Then the age old question....do I split the calipers or not? If I do where do I get the gallery seals?, if I don't - how do I easily pop the pistons out now they are not connected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, L19MUD said: how do I easily pop the pistons out now they are not connected? Air line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Gallery seals are 17H8764L on page 507 of 1987 onwards 110 parts book. Any of the LR parts suppliers can sort some for you, 2 per caliper standard solid disc or 4 per caliper for vented disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, daveturnbull said: Air line. Plus something between them to stop the first one coming out before the rest have moved! Worst case, weld a bolt into the cup of the piston, and yank it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 shop4autoparts sell the gallery seals iirc. Split them for sure. When I did mine, the lower channels were blocked with a rubber goo that I presume was from less than frequent brake fluid changes. You would never spot this if you didnt split the caliper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Thanks all. I will get the bits ordered to rebuild them including the gallery seals I cleaned all 4 up quickly last night and dropped back in the electrolysis tank to finish off before a final clean. Will then remove pistons and split them. Came up well for less than an hours work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Makes installing the seals WAAAY easier too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 The seals are easy enough to fit. It's the retainers that require the patience of a saint, and er... "language". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 55 minutes ago, daveturnbull said: The seals are easy enough to fit. It's the retainers that require the patience of a saint, and er... "language". Get one of these, it will seat the retainer rings without any hassle https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Series-Defender-Discovery-Brake-Caliper-Rebuild-Tool-DA1153/183640654933?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 I'm going to rebuild my 110's calipers with stainless steel pistons & new seals in the next few weeks, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Wow that's pricey. Pretty sure I could cobble something up from bits of scrap and a G clamp that would work just as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I use the big washer from the front trailing arm bush and the vice. JD. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 9 hours ago, daveturnbull said: Wow that's pricey. Pretty sure I could cobble something up from bits of scrap and a G clamp that would work just as well. I decided to get one to save my frustration at the retaining rings not fitting easily & it will save time. & foul language Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 My patience with brake calipers is already beginning to expire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Bugger. They weren't working very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Oh dear! She’s putting up a fight then 😕 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Been there, done that, it'll all work out fine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post L19MUD Posted November 21, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 with the airline, 8 with mole grips and 3 with the welder but they are all out and ready for new seals and pistons 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Ordered all the parts needed today. I went for genuine AP seals and callipers in the end instead of stainless. The old ones have lasted 25 years (although I appreciate some of them were stuck!) On another note I was going to order new rear brake pipes, I already have the front ones. The prices are mad though as two of them are only available from Land Rover. I think the parts I need for a 90 without ABS, with PRV (Chassis number LA933xxx) are; ANR2775 PRV to flexi hose £76 Gen LR NTC7676 T to RH calliper £110 Gen LR NTC7689 T to LH calliper £9 pattern part Why would the left hand pipe be availble as a pattern part but the RH is not?! I think I have the right part numbers. I know I could just make them up in Kunifer but I prefer the stonger original steel pipes and saves the hassle of bending them all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Have a chat with David at LLama4x4 for the brake lines. I'm not going to bother with any solid line on the 90. His are all £15 for upto 1.5M I think, made to order too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, landroversforever said: Have a chat with David at LLama4x4 for the brake lines. I'm not going to bother with any solid line on the 90. His are all £15 for upto 1.5M I think, made to order too. We really need a wee emoji thing for a "can of worms"... 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 18 hours ago, L19MUD said: My patience with brake calipers is already beginning to expire... Got a caliper refurb planned for my 110, using new stainless piston kit f& new Ferodo pads or all 4 calipers, I hope my existing pistons come out easier than these did. or I'll have one of these to deal with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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