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I'm running out of jack stands and I'm sick of working around a slopping multi level floor and since I'm cutting the 40 Series chassis in half to get the triangulation I want for the lower links I'm going to build a Chassis Table 
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The whole thing is modular I can bolt on extentions, wider middle joiners or wings to support stuff... I can even do trailers on it 
The feet are M16 swivel pads in groups of 3 so I better contour to the floor and this give me redundency weight rating, each group will push onto a 38mm thread section so I can adjust and level out, the thread section is located into a 50mm deep reciever that locks the thread section in with 2 grub screws 
If I need to move it I'll make some mounting pads for casters that will slot into the same grub screw mount 

The main body is 310 UB 32

Any suggestions pipe up.... I've got about 3 weeks before I start building it 
 

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Got a wee bit done on this 

Using up as much of my offcuts and salvage (mainly so I can clean up and reduce the amount in the steel rack lol) The plate was offcuts from a bush gaurding job on a digger, the 38mm stainless shaft is going to be machined into the adjustable screws (if I can hmmm) its an old belt shaft from an orchard machine.... catch is it took ages to cut on the bandsaw and has picked up an interesting pattern from harmonics in the cut.... it might be some form of higher tensile stainless... time will tell. The chunks of round stock (4140 normalised) are left over versions from when I made a PTO pickup for an LT95 box they'll get machined down to make the holder for the screws (Got one in the lathe now) the bit behind is going to be my height adjusting nut (if its machine-able) an old broken digger pin, catch is some are heat treated  

I was going to get some second hand UB's to make the frame but after getting D'd around repeatedly lol I priced new and it wasn't much more so that should be here soon 

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Bit of an oval pattern in the bandsawn end of the material? Our big Marvel 2 saw at work always does that and I could never work it out. Particularly as its a lovely square cut.

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Not in this case I'm getting a sort of wave pattern and its not consistant with the entry of the cut....Done a bit of reading..... Stainless can work harden if your feed rate is too low, my shop saw is a cheap gravity feed (no feed just the weight of the saw) I do have some weights I hang on it, but I don't use them often because the bands are not very deep and it can stretch the blade allowing it to cut off 

I know that pattern your refering to..... I could be wrong in this lol I haven't spent too many hrs on decent bandsaws, I've found when I got that pattern its worth checking my chip, normally you'll find it is fine with no curl.... I've found increasing band speed will increase size of the chip and you should get a little curl to it.... if the chip has changed colour then slow it down and change your feed rate 

As I said my bandsaw is a cheapy and has a couple of noval issues I'm going to have to sort at some stage lol The discharge wheel will run the band off if I move the cutting guide too far away from it (cutting something small), the guide rollers don't have any adjustment to close up on the band so I have accuracy issues with some bands that are a little narrower and have room to wander.... it does have variable speed (3 tier V belt drive) catch is its not subtle lol and too adjust it I have to de-mount the motor, been planing on a variable controler to give me a tuneing speed control and throw an idler pulley into the mix so changing gears is quick n easy 

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LRF I had a couple of goes at taking a picture of the harmoninic patern lol my cell phone camera just isn't that good..... maybe in the future when I've been forced into buying a new'er time wasting device lol 

Been helping out a mate with his project, He's almost finished so I'm trying to get him over the line.... catch is I'm just finding so many things that are wrong with previous work (that he paid for!) anyway its ment that I've sort of put what I'm doing on hold a bit 

I did finish the machining on the feet for the chassis table, not the fastest job machining out stepped bits of tube out of solid lol. But I'm done and I've used up some more of my stockpile of "its to good to throw out" 

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I discovered that the piece of pin steel was hardened lol.... I still cut it, my tips were going blunt so I kept cutting (its the one on the right sitting up, the tell tail that its hardened is the shinny surface that hasn't been finished... I'm painting these so I'm not bothering with a finish cut, I just slowed down the feed rate on my final cut).
I got a couple of blanks out of the Pin that I'm going to use to make some adjusting nuts.... but before I machine them I'm going to heat them up and anneal them, I'll know afterwards when I face them off in the lathe if I'm right about it being a version of 4140 (or similar) 

Oh got Mildly miffed off after wasting a 3 days waiting for a local contractor.... so I could get into his yard to buy a couple of second hand UB's..... "Oh sorry mate, I forgot.... can we do it tomorrow...." after the third time he wasn't even answering his phone lol.... so I went and bought a brand new one..... "cough, choke" 650kg of beam! 

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Run into a bit of a hitch.... contacted my Carbide tip supplier to get a set of internal and external Buttress or Acme threading tips problem is they can't supply anything with a large enough thread pitch in a 16mm triangular tip. I've had to call around NZ best I can do is a 3mm pitch Acme.... I was hopeing to get a 4mm or 6TPI.... the 3mm will still hold, I'll just make the nuts a little bit deeper 

The tips are now coming from Auckland managed to find some in stock... catch is they won't arrive till mid way through next week  lol 

So when I hit a piont on my mates truck where I needed some feedback.... I bit the bullet and started hammer forming the sides of the wire rack pieces ( a job I've been putting off lol I knew it would hurt... I'm sitting here with a sore shoulder and elbow..... and I still have two more sides to form )  I'll get some pics tonight 

 

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Finished all the hammer forming ..... unfortunatly I had a bit of an issue the "table catch's" hook at the bottom beat me

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A 20mm gap just isn't enough room to control and manipulate the metal, because I wasn't able to dirrectionally hit the alloy sheet as I formed it around the hook.... I was having to sweep the pick end of the hammer through the gap. This ment I was pulling on the metal on the end of the hook.... I got a couple formed using wooden bucks but it broke the bucks doing it so I made a steel buck and without that give of the wood this is the result 

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So after a bit of pondering I made the call to remove the hook.... 

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And here we are all 8 of them hammer formed and center punched ready to drill and dimple, I'll also have to drag the Tig back to the shop and weld up a little join where the hook was but that will probably happen when I've got these built as I'm using the tig as a stick welder at home 

I've got to finish the front strut brace for my mates toy and sort his front drive shaft so that should leave me a couple of hrs this arvo to drill and form these sides.... maybe another photo tomorrow lol

 

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Just packing up to head to the workshop and the posty pulls in (I'm on rural delievery) he doesn't normally work a Saterday but there are that many parcels he's decided to do a run.... and he has my cutting tips Yes..... open them up and No.... lol they have sent out 3mm ISO threading tips lol so half n hr on the phone my tips are being ordered lol going to be up to 10 days wait till I see em lol 

But I also got a new toy!

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It's way more than I need it can do 60mm cutters the photo on trademe wasn't very good I sort of took a punt it was what I thought it was..... and its a bit bigger than what I antisipated.... it may not fit sideways inside the beam for the chassis table might require a bit of a redesign 

Heres a bit of math that prompted my decission to buy this 

To hire a mag drill for a day is around $200 plus I'd have to buy at least a couple of cutters to do all the holes I want $80 (better off buying three so $120) , assuming I get them done in one day I'm looking at $320 to drill all the holes in the chassis table, if I don't get it back by 5pm then its $520...... this came up on Trademe for $800 and with all the cutter's (and only one of them needs a sharpen lol) it was kind of a no brainer..... only catch is there is no lube tank or hose but I do have the lube spindle... oh and no center pins but I should be able to sort them easy enough 

Now off to the shed lol 

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Great bits of kit had one for years actually got it given as the guy was having a clear out and it was earmarked for the scrap bin done all I've asked of it over the last decade or so regards Stephen 

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I was using them all the time is Australia because they are realisticly the only way to cut Bissalloy and Hardox.
Had a dry fit inside the beam..... the drill is definitly too big to fit in the beam cross ways but because its able to do the larger cutters, the drill is further from the magnet... (the one I got in Australia is only capable of cutting 35mm and is alot closer to the magnet).... but because of the extra distance it lets me run it at an angle, and fits no proplems.... ordered a pin last night, guessing that will be here mid week then I get to give it a play......

Well I had a better than expected day in the shop yesterday..... got my mates stuff sorted very quickly so got all the holes drilled, formed and dimpled 

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The large raised dimples had to be stretched on a sandbag prior to pressing and most of them needed a bit more stretching and re-pressing with the die to stop them pulling and twisting the panels it mightn't look it but that is a large form...... because I was going hard to get them done (had to be home by a set time lol) there is the odd one that got a bit to much pre stretching with the mallet and when I pressed the dies and not all the mallet marks are pulled out 
I'm not going to bother planishing them out as I'm going to give them a resumble powder coat.... so I don't think you'll be able to see them when they are coated (Just need to get my powder coating gun over here from Australia lol)

I was going so well I got some of the rod "stays" sorted as well... till I ran out of 6mm washers lol 

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I decided to give them a bit of clamping with 6mm washers..... its a little frustrating the rod is from auction win yrs ago and is 1/4".... I'm putting M6 nuts on it so need to take 0.5mm off before I tap.... but its using up some odd material lol 

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Wouldn't it be easier just to use UNF nuts?  Either way, good to see you going for it in the workshop again!

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1 hour ago, deep said:

Wouldn't it be easier just to use UNF nuts?  Either way, good to see you going for it in the workshop again!

NO.... it means I'd have some of that weird fitting stuff and I'd have to go buy it, The thought did cross my mind and it has in the past when I've used this material before and needed to thread it (i have ALOT of it lol) the main reason why I don't is I'll end up mixing up similar sized nuts and bolts so I only stock metric 

I'll stop off and grab another packet of M6 washers and finish these off today and start the spindles 

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There’s a lot of work in those wine racks !

Are they for restaurant tables ?

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20 hours ago, Anderzander said:

There’s a lot of work in those wine racks !

Are they for restaurant tables ?

Lol Yes there is.... the design was about learning Solidworks and I felt the design was cool enough to build so here I am 
Heres some of the "wine" they will carry lol 

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I'm organizing my workshop, Tidying up every thing and building a few of things I've wanted for a while, like the chassis table..... this is part of the plan for the new workshop 

Right got a bit of time yesterday so set too on the rest of the stays for these racks 
Made a simple jig on the welding table so I could weld the washers on.... put the washer on the jig fit the bar through washer into jig, weld as I turn the rod.... next one, then let them cool and do the other end.... let them cool, over to the lathe, mount, spin off half a mm, face washer, champher, remove and mount other end, repeat.... next one, then over to the bench mount in the vice, oil tap down, flip die over and chase thread to washer, clamp other end up in vice and repeat.... next one 
After a few hrs of work I have these 

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Thats the welding jig welded to the table to the left of them.... That adjustable foot is for another project (when some more parts arrive) a set of wheel scales and I'm working on some other ideas as well......

There probably won't be any updates for a day or two as I'm waiting on a steel delivery to finish these racks and I have some other stuff to sort 

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Not much of an update, I ended up being a relationship guidence counciler for a mate lol so no real help just helped him empty my fridge 

But I did manage to check out the Mag drill and build a lube tank holder for it
The brushes were sparking alot, pulled the cover off the motor and had a look no damage to the stator but there was some fine score marks and the brushes were near new, so I filed a little lead in champher on the brushes and ran it without load...... it reduced it considerably. I'm guessing it may have gotten wet with some grinding slag on there, after a few minutes of running the issue went away 

I looked at building or buying a tank but I thought of something a bit smarter..... I have these 1L bottles of heavy cutting oil I use, the factory bottle is good so I use it in these.... why not set it up to use these 

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I'll use some slicon pipe just slipped over the tip to seal it to the plastic pipe to the arbour and let the center pin seal turn it off and on, The paint is a funny product I got ages ago (on special lol)..... a heavyily textured paint that sort of bubbles as you spray it..... and its the very politically incorrect colour of "Negro" surprisingly they no longer stock it lol

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On 7/3/2020 at 12:07 AM, landroversforever said:

I like that! 

It just made sense.... instead of having a tank that leaks oil into the case etc, cheers 

Had a good day today.... got all the nuts for the wire rack spindles done and some of the bits they will screw too that I'm going to weld to the end of the spindle tube (will make more sense tomorrow hopefully lol) 

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Got the UB cut for the chassis table..... Had a bit of a think on the design and I'm giving it an option to run wider and need some more 310 UB 40 but this is an option thing to make it a bit more adaptable I'll just keep an eye out with the local engineers 
So 2x 2m lengths as the main beams, 2x mid beams (to run the outside at 700mm wide and 1.2m), 6x 250mm side extentions and 2x 500mm side extentions
Haven't got the cutting tips yet for the adjustable screws on the legs.... but I do have the center pins for the Mag drill so I'll be able to start drilling the assembly holes¬†ūüėĒ

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On 7/2/2020 at 1:02 AM, De Ranged said:

and its the very politically incorrect colour of "Negro" surprisingly they no longer stock it lol

Negro is just black in Latin languages (Spanish, Portuguese, Italian). 

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6 hours ago, geoffbeaumont said:

Negro is just black in Latin languages (Spanish, Portuguese, Italian). 

That makes sense... I was guessing old stock from the 90's 

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Finished all the machining on "wine racks" lol and will finish painting today .... Will get some pics of them when I'm done 

Heres a little taster for the rest of the tool sort out for my electrical stuff.... I picked up some tool/part organisers cheap, they are robust and don't have lots of irrelevant design carp to them to make them look "tough" (that just takes up space lol).... and they have removable internals 
I was originally going to do this with Teng Organiser stuff but here in NZ we don't get the cheap deals on Teng stuff lol and the other part is my vacumn former is in my Australian tool box (we arn't allowed to travel to Australia till Covid is sorted) so here is some 3D printing 

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Had a good day in the shop yesterday..... 
Got the Wire Racks finished.... finally lol not like its taken me months to do...

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The spindles have a step machined in the end so they "catch" in the hole in the side plate so its easy to do up 

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The blue isn't an exciting colour lol but I got it to match the new bead roller and sheet metal working tools I got recently at auction.... the other reason is its is light enough in colour I'm thinking it will help "lighten up" the workshop.... my lighting or lack of it is an issue... and according to all the property programs nice neutral pale colours help make spaces bigger and more air-ry, yay I need more space in my shop lol

Had a bit of time on my hands I was suppposed to have a mate bring in his project car for a trans tunnel repair.... previous owner had done some work to covert it to manual and fit a hydralic hand brake unfortunatly didn't know much about welding so I'm helping him fix the damage and do it properly, he's helped me out over the years and this is his first project so I'm helping him out (pushing him along lol) ..... ended up "pushing" his motovation after he turned up without his car lol..... he's bringing it around today around 2 lol 

So I started trimming the ends of the Unerversial Beams for the Chassis Table.... hopefully finish this today 

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Interesting - very HD - solution !

We all seem collect miles and miles of wires....

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Thank you 

Call it OCD but I hate single or limited colour looms.... here is one I found today on my mates car the loom has some damage from a previous life and they had cut some of the loom off, now just from the wire colours and manual I was able to tell the lad what these were.... so I need lots of colours. This too me is a bare minimum lol I'll buy and collect more.... and this is only 10amp stuff I still need some 15amp stuff, why I made extra room..... having these done should make the loom on the 40 series alot nicer to do lol 

Got a bit of time down the shed today where I was able to do a bit more work on the Chassis Table..... I'm getting sick of grinding dust lol but I only have one more part to cut down.... 

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I also got 1/3rd of the 10mm stuff to plate the ends.... my poor little bandsaw wasn't happy about the long cuts on fine tooth blade, jammed up a couple times..... hopefully the blade lasts 

Got a little present in the mail.... finally got the cutting tips for the 3mm Acme thread for the legs 

If I've got some energy left after my mtbike ride then I'll keep going lol 

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