Ex Member Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Gazzar said: The 110 manual didn't cover the wedges, I'll look up the series ROM to see what you mean. It is in my Defender workshop manual. https://www.hnjengineering.co.uk/pages/products/hnj270304/hnj270304.html Edited March 20, 2020 by Red90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 Oooohhh! I could have made some of those. Anyway, They're on now. The older cork type went in fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrover17H Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) It's another 'thing' to buy, and in itself buying this tool doesn't amount to much, but when you've added it all up, the total bill can get silly. One solution... there must be cheaper work-rounds. Edited March 21, 2020 by Landrover17H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrover17H Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) Unless you're fully confident, I'd have those T Seals out one more time. It'd be a whole lot of pain to have it wrong. Buy the blocks, stick 'em on eBay for £30, and after selling costs they'll stand you £15-20ish. But you'll know the job's right? I need a set soon, thus I'll take those off you for a start! Edited March 21, 2020 by Landrover17H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 No, the seals I had in stock will be fine. They were new seals, just old stock, and they fitted tight enough. Stupid system, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 And if I was to refit, I'd make my own blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 I did, however, get the cam end float clearance to within spec. I examined the cam sprocket and there were a few burrs on the key way channels. Thirty seconds with a diamond file and the clearance was slap bang in the centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 Plus, I established TDC, and marked it. Exactly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrover17H Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 It'd take me 2-3 hours to make blocks, sounds like you're quicker than me. For the benefit of others: ACR's cam requires a 3MB type 'Cam Timing sprocket' which isn't a problem for most. However, the 5MB has only one spline orientation. Finding a decent cam timing sprocket was a pig. Turns out, ACR had some reasonably priced 'new old' stock. See differences in pix: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Love the care going into this, well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 Did you set up the cam yourself? The instructions are very detailed. How far out from standard 2.5 timing did the ACR cam end up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigj66 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Yep, great thread 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 The 6 way sprocket was the problem, or the cam, with regards to getting the end float right. Removing the burrs on the keyways was necessary, but shouldn't have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: Love the care going into this, well done! 2 minutes ago, Bigj66 said: Yep, great thread 👍 Thanks, it's a good challenge to build my first engine. Getting the thing running will be a much bigger challenge, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Well, we will be here to help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: Well, we will be here to help I am very appreciative of that. I think I'd be still on clockwork engine management without the power of this forum. Thank you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrover17H Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Cam timing: I did mine must be 2-3 years back, and I can't remember the details. You'll find your nervousness unfounded. I do remember it coming easier than expected. I run a business so understand Roland's situation, if need be, book a 5 min chat with him, he's very good. I used two dial gauges. As far as I can make out the only cam that 'actually' requires the multiple-spline is Roland's. The simplified single-spline is good for anything else. Rant: Land rover owners are a broad-church. It seems to stem from the "Whatever you do, don't go anywhere." faction, yet there's so much falsehood spewed on various forums about modding this engine. Our ACR conversion /closed loop set-ups won't be for most, yet there's good reason to skim the head and shove the 5MB cam into every 3MB rebuild, as standard practice. A proven profile, the cam also sits in the 200Tdious. Economy and torque improvements, it was the 'last hurrah' for the design, and you've got the thing in bits anyway? Instead, you'll read endless 'carb / dizzy threads'? You could wonder how some remember to breathe? Rest assured, done right, and it's clear that'll be what's happening here, 'For driving', yours is the way to go. Edited March 22, 2020 by Landrover17H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 Agreed. Some day I'll do a pure series. Or stick a Tesla engine in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigj66 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Gazzar said: Agreed. Some day I'll do a pure series. Or stick a Tesla engine in one. I looked seriously at converting mine to electric but the cost of doing the job properly is unbelievably expensive for a hobby car but it would have been a great project to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 I'm going to wait until there's a good supply of crashed cars. I've one or two other projects to do first: And the house...... And the garden..... And one or two dry stone walls..... Would it be bad to buy a 101? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Gazzar said: Would it be bad to buy a 101? Never! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 The MS stuff is over my head, but the mechanical work is looking great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrover17H Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Let my grumpy old git let forth... Methinks: Can't see the current fascination with converting a classic to electric, I mean... it'll never be cheap, and even if it were free? After the novelty wears off, what could I do with it anyway? 'Spose if we disengage brain, it sounds clever? Is it for the 'coffee and classics' crowd, whereby we wallet-wave, and delude all and sundry, catching the applause for being psuedo-green? Coming from someone who's in the midst of project as involved as the OP's this comes a bit 'rich', but then I 'drive' mine. Way I see it, therein sees the difference. I suspect this project is going to be used too. Edited March 22, 2020 by Landrover17H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 48 minutes ago, Landrover17H said: Let my grumpy old git let forth... Methinks: Can't see the current fascination with converting a classic to electric, I mean... it'll never be cheap, and even if it were free? After the novelty wears off, what could I do with it anyway? 'Spose if we disengage brain, it sounds clever? Is it for the 'coffee and classics' crowd, whereby we wallet-wave, and delude all and sundry, catching the applause for being psuedo-green? Well, currently EV conversions (or EVs at all) don't really stack up for daily use but a classic that only does a bit of bimbling around and is cheap, reliable, silent and powerful is quite attractive - electric motors are amazingly good as a power plant but just let down by current generation of batteries. I'd EV swap my whole fleet in a heartbeat if batteries could match a tank of petrol for energy storage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 EVs are: Simpler. No gearbox, only a transfer box. Quieter, I've sensitive hearing. Cleaner, I've adult onset asthma. Batteries are rubbish. If this is solved (hold more, fill faster, last longer, weigh less (X10)) then they are better than petrol. Plus, with better solar electric is possible to be self reliant, to an extent. Plus, it's my truck. I'll do what I want with it, so long as it's legal, not anyone elses business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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