Bowie69 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Wrong way round........? It won't care.... It is just a voltage producer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Could you not space the whole alternator bracket forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Anderzander said: Could you not space the whole alternator bracket forward? Yes, but I'd rather not, if I can avoid it. If a pulley fixes it, that's a result. And it should, as this is all most likely standard series positioning, as the crank pulley fits both engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: Wrong way round........? It won't care.... It is just a voltage producer. Fixing bolt outward, and in same space as fan belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Gazzar said: Fixing bolt outward, and in same space as fan belt. Ah, sorry, photo looked fuzzy. Could turn 90, have bolt upwards, and connector pointing in to timing case, may make it tidy? Or may not fit Just trying to see a way where it doesn't mean the cable shoots off into no man's land before going up the timing case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Bowie69 said: Ah, sorry, photo looked fuzzy. Could turn 90, have bolt upwards, and connector pointing in to timing case, may make it tidy? Or may not fit Just trying to see a way where it doesn't mean the cable shoots off into no man's land before going up the timing case. Exactly. That's why this is a strong contender. The cable route is up to the coolant temp sensor, along the rocker to the throttle sensor, picking up the injector and air temperature sensor along the way to the coil wiring. What else is there? Knock sensor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Do you need one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Bowie69 said: Do you need one? No idea, Binky has one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 I think I've a plan. I'll use the alternator mounting position, and an L profile bracket. But I'll use slotted holes, giving the adjustability I might need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrover17H Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Not sure I understand how this set-up creates belt-alignment problems, although to be honest mine might be out. Replaced my alternator, engine in situ, and it didn't occur to me to look. Appears to be something going with the mounting points to your alternator? Ah, looking again (painted black in your pix) I think you've a different mount-casting to me? I'll check. Best change the two bolts you have now to one long 'un. You want an M8 x130mm. Right now, engine-out, fine. Make everything far simpler once it's in situ. Fan-belt tension with M8 x130mm becomes a 5 minuter, done from the top. Else, as is, crawl around in a half-hour knuckle-scraper. Ask me how I know? Edited July 12, 2020 by Landrover17H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Excuse my ignorance - but what was this for ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrover17H Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) PAS mount definitely, and (I think) Air-con variant too. Air-con has a differing timing-cover, thinking about it, air-pump mounts on timing-cover. Here's a 17H alternator casting. Different? Edited July 12, 2020 by Landrover17H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 13 hours ago, Gazzar said: What else is there? Knock sensor? Nope, very rare to bother with one and they're a fair old faff to set up. People running lots of boost tend to like them as things are always far closer to catastrophic failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 Okay, I'll leave be. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Anderzander said: Excuse my ignorance - but what was this for ? I'll put a little plate over that. It's a bit ugly. In fact, I'll put bolts in all the tapped blind holes, just to keep debris out. No doubt they'll be useful for cable tidy purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Could you integrate the trigger sensor mount into that plate ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Anderzander said: Could you integrate the trigger sensor mount into that plate ? Yes, that was my first plan. This will be iterative, with many false starts. I might have to triangulate, I need it to be very robust, and protective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 This looks like the beginning of a solution. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty_wingnut Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Lurking with interest here, I've got a 2.5petrol and a 3.5V8 potentially lined up for my Series 1. Heart says V8, head says 2.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigj66 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, rusty_wingnut said: Lurking with interest here, I've got a 2.5petrol and a 3.5V8 potentially lined up for my Series 1. Heart says V8, head says 2.5 Go with your heart 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 hours ago, rusty_wingnut said: Lurking with interest here, I've got a 2.5petrol and a 3.5V8 potentially lined up for my Series 1. Heart says V8, head says 2.5 The V8 will be more powerful, more fun, and more economical... what's not to like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 I looked at a very original series on Monday and it gave me food for thought. It suggested the fan belt was 4mm further away from the block on my engine. Which makes no sense. Thoughts included: Is the timing chest thicker? Is the crank longer? The pulley? All wrong, of course. The pulley wasn't on the shaft fully. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 This led to a problem. The fan pulley was out of line. A long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 What’s going on there then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 It's also brought the trigger wheel into contact with the timing bracketry. I could have trimmed the wheel, and it probably makes no difference. But I turned down the spacers instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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