kevin50 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Ready to rebuild mu Dash back up but problem with wipers. Drivers side had been cut off for some reason by someone, so replaced with new onw, I know I should have got both but just got the one stupid me. Anyway they both turn when switched on, but the new one with wiper arm on it just flops down in to the engine bay. The old one seems to turn OK and hold the arm better. When switched off I can turn the new one by hand but the old one wont budge, I have ordered another just in case , might aswell have both new. Stuck to get on now until I get these sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Have you got both with the cable tube at the top if not they will not operate correctly & try to park the wipers on the bonnet. see page 729 [page number top centre of each page] http://www.retroanaconda.com/landrover/parts_books/110/8_body_electrics_p667-740.pdf there's a pretty good guide on repairs here https://www.firstfour.co.uk/news/land-rover-defender-wiper-repair-guide/ by the way the screen washer jet is 180 degree out, it needs to face up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin50 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, western said: Have you got both with the cable tube at the top if not they will not operate correctly & try to park the wipers on the bonnet. see page 729 [page number top centre of each page] http://www.retroanaconda.com/landrover/parts_books/110/8_body_electrics_p667-740.pdf there's a pretty good guide on repairs here https://www.firstfour.co.uk/news/land-rover-defender-wiper-repair-guide/ by the way the screen washer jet is 180 degree out, it needs to face up. I am sure the Tube is at top on both , going up now to check, will take pic. Does the Motor have to be removed to change these as I just changed the Drivers side with it still fitted only moving the last bit of Tube then put it back in. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 They way you done it is OK for the driver side wheelbox,, But was the motor definetly in the parked position ? to replace the left one you will have to extract the motor complete with the drive cable [this will or should be greased] to allow the left wheelbox to be fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin50 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, western said: They way you done it is OK for the driver side wheelbox,, But was the motor definetly in the parked position ? to replace the left one you will have to extract the motor complete with the drive cable [this will or should be greased] to allow the left wheelbox to be fitted. Not sure if it was in parked position, didn't really think as about it. How can you tell ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 take the arms & blades off, mark the side of the adaptors that sits in line with the screen seal edge with something you can see easily [white or light coloured paint or some masking tape] then ign on & operate the motor, the mark should move through just over 90degrees towards the vehicles right side & return to the rest [same position] when the motor stops. then the arms & blades can be refitted so the sit parallel with the screen seal edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin50 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, western said: take the arms & blades off, mark the side of the adaptors that sits in line with the screen seal edge with something you can see easily [white or light coloured paint or some masking tape] then ign on & operate the motor, the mark should move through just over 90degrees towards the vehicles right side & return to the rest [same position] when the motor stops. then the arms & blades can be refitted so the sit parallel with the screen seal edge. They do as you said but don't think it's in park position as with arm folded back they drop down in engine bay then back up😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Put a photo of the wiper motor up please, if its fitted upside down that will affect the park position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin50 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, western said: Put a photo of the wiper motor up please, if its fitted upside down that will affect the park position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Motor position may need tweaking a bit, but looks as close to this one. Have a read of this too, as the park switch ramp might be in the wrong place on the gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin50 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, western said: Motor position may need tweaking a bit, but looks as close to this one. Have a read of this too, as the park switch ramp might be in the wrong place on the gear. Thanks Mate, It does look in right position but will have a good look. I have only 1 wiper arm which I am trying with , its an old one so could be the splines in it are not that good, with Ignition off and when on the old wheel it seems to lock in place but when on the new it just drops down with the weight of it. If you can understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Yep, reckon it's a worn out arm as you suggest, oh well a bit more expense but it'll be worth the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Might sound stupid but as theold one is firm and does not move, but new one move freely!?! Have you TIGHTENED up the Grub screw in the wiper arm??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin50 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mutley said: Might sound stupid but as theold one is firm and does not move, but new one move freely!?! Have you TIGHTENED up the Grub screw in the wiper arm??? Yes Mate both tightened up, , Should they be able to Move by Hand, the Old one does not but does move as it should with Ignition and switch on. 26 minutes ago, western said: Yep, reckon it's a worn out arm as you suggest, oh well a bit more expense but it'll be worth the effort. Yes but still think they are in the wrong position. will have to order new arms might as well get blades aswell, don't think they are expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin50 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) Think these are right parts for mine. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Defender-Front-Wiper-Blades-Hook-Type-Arms-/111889180863?hash=item1a0d1d68bf Edited May 10, 2020 by kevin50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 There should be minimal play movement when you try to twist the adaptor with wipers off & motor off. I replaced the adaptors on my 110 last week & there is no movement between the shaft & adaptor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, kevin50 said: Think these are right parts for mine. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Defender-Windscreen-Wiper-Arm-Blade-Set-PRC4276-x-2-DKC000110PMD-x2-/230752169464 Yes they will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin50 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, western said: There should be minimal play movement when you try to twist the adaptor with wipers off & motor off. I replaced the adaptors on my 110 last week & there is no movement between the shaft & adaptor. I just replaced new one same way I took old one off, must have done something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 You guys did all see the colour of the parts bag against the bulkhead, right? I think you need to get new single hubs - Britpart are terrible for things like this. Chances are the outside diameter is too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 No I didn't notice the bag, you could be right. some genuine adaptors here https://www.johnrichardssurplus.co.uk/wiper-arm-adapter-stc987.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 To be honest that colour bag for the wiper spindles aren't bad and personally i have had more problems with Bearmach items regarding wipers, arms and spindles!?! Just my experience though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin50 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Snagger said: You guys did all see the colour of the parts bag against the bulkhead, right? I think you need to get new single hubs - Britpart are terrible for things like this. Chances are the outside diameter is too small. Yes Mate Britpart. Watched this Vid he has the same one and this was the problem, done as he said and fixed. Might cancel the other one and just get the bit that the wiper arm fits on to, save taking the Motor and everything else back out. and exact same problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I have a used but good adaptor here if you want it Kev, can post it up, just PM your address. recently replaced mine as both arms/adaptors were loose on the shafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin50 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, western said: I have a used but good adaptor here if you want it Kev, can post it up, just PM your address. recently replaced mine as both arms/adaptors were loose on the shafts. Great Mate will do. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin50 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Snagger said: You guys did all see the colour of the parts bag against the bulkhead, right? I think you need to get new single hubs - Britpart are terrible for things like this. Chances are the outside diameter is too small. Nothing wrong with Britpart, half of us wouldn't be able to afford to have Land Rovers without them.🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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