need4speed Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I think you should all chip in and award it to me. Failing that you can maybe help with my ineptitude. life always seems to get right in the way of my build but I will not be deterred! So this morning I get into the cobweb covered 110 (obligatory landy spider obviously still present and correct) armed with my laptop, MS build CD and serial lead. Now 1st things 1st. I do not have Adobe. It’s some cheap generic thing called Sumatra or something. However I can read Nige’s CD so don’t think that’s a problem. It says on the disc there should be .MSQ files that I need to download for my engine size - 4.6 in my case. But therein lies the problem. I cannot seem to see any of these files. I can only see the ‘build instructions’. Nothing else. Am I doing something dopey or do I have wrong disc. Additionally, when I turn on ignition I hear a click from relay board at the same time 2 leds light up but then 1 goes out leaving the middle one on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 If it's a nige ECU, then it will have a V8 map on it. The led going out is, I think, the fuel pump indicator, so that is correct, it is just priming the pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 Yep the whole kit from Nige. I always thought there was something I needed to load? It says on disc that I needed to choose the msq file for the 4.6 but I can’t seem to see any files on disc other than the guide itself. I must be doing something wrong. When i turn key all the way to start nowt happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Have you downloaded and installed Tunerstudio? http://www.tunerstudio.com/index.php/tuner-studio If you install that, plug the laptop in you should be able to get to the map that's on there, which is a start When you turn the key does it crank? It should do that even with the MS disconnected IIRC - if it doesn't then possibly something else is wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 I haven’t downloaded tunerstudio yet. That’s a good shout Jon as I meant to do that and forgot. busy with work now but will get another crack at it Sunday and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Megasquirt won't stop it cranking - you need to figure out what's going on there first. Stuck starter motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 ring me if you need Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 Will do Nige. Should get a look at it Sunday. PM me the best number to get you on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Had time for a quick looksee today. Getting spark. Very strong spark actually by the look of it. No juice going to FP for some reason so need to investigate that. Will update over weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Fuel pump will only run for 2 secs on ignition live, and then when the engine is cranking running only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 As Bowie said, the ECU only turns the fuel pump on for two things - the initial injector priming pulse when you first turn it on, and then when it sees the engine turning (pulses from the EDIS unit). As you have spark, that suggests the ignition/EDIS side is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 Ahhh that explains a lot. Thanks gents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 Good and bad news today. Fired up and ran. For 2/3 seconds then stopped. Waited a bit. Started and ran for another 2/3 seconds and stopped again. Fuel pressure issue? Im scared what this start/stopping is doing to my cam lobes and spark plugs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Probably just poor mixture in the after start/warm up settings. Just try and get it going and keep it going on the pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 I was trying to keep it going feathering the throttle but it was having none of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 If it wasn't eye-wateringly rich, add 25% to the REQ_FUEL value and try again see if you can get it in the ballpark. There's a lot of leeway for what mixture will actually burn. Chances are it's just too lean once it drops out of cranking mode, or you don't have enough after-start or warmup enrichment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 I don’t have tuner studio yet. I was hoping that the basic map on Nige’s ecu would be ballpark enough to get it running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Almost any map should be enough to start it, assuming you've got everything hooked up right. Do you have Megatune or any visibility of the ECU status at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 No visibility of ecu status. I won’t attempt any more until I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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