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Trying to obtain 2 of the fluid gallery seals for vented front caliper, 

only ones I can find online are these  https://www.shop4autoparts.net/parts/brakes/CALIPER-GALLERY-SEAL-12-6-13-4/

I've sent messages to the supplier above & to another place, but no replies yet.

on the off chance do any forum friends have or know where I can get 2 of the seals from please 

 

 

 

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are these different to the non vented one's ?

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Yes, I have non vented which are just square section O rings & they are the wrong size for vented caliper,

these [as shown above ] sit inside the spacer to make the caliper wider.

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Would Zeus stock them Ralph? Just looked on their website but there's not as much on there as there used to be. Sure they used to sell all of these bits though.

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Yes looked on Zues-uk website, nothing there,

done lots of web searches looking for these with zero results,

Can't find a LR part number for them either. 

still waiting on replies from https://www.northwestclassic.co.uk/ & the link in original post.

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May be ring/email Zeus? I think I had to when I last got bits from them and they had more stuff than on their website.

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I've found this kit, see the 2 items ringed in red, these might be what I'm after. I've sent the seller [on ebay] a message for more info.

Yes I'll try Zeus by email, now sent the email & awaiting a reply -- fingers crossed.

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I think that is a Lockheed part number. However, if say Bigg Red refurbished them they would have to replace them; have you tried them, they do sell loose parts?

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Got a reply from the ebay seller whose listing had the photo above but he said that's not a true photo of the kit, so no result there, still waiting for autopost & zeus & north west classic to reply, 

No I haven't tried big red,

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2 hours ago, cackshifter said:

I think that is a Lockheed part number. However, if say Bigg Red refurbished them they would have to replace them; have you tried them, they do sell loose parts?

Success & a good call by you :i-m_so_happy:Now have a pair of these galley seals on the way to me, all sorted within 10 minutes.

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They've been very good for a couple of repair kits I have had from them.

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Glad to hear it worked - but - I thought (I have never stripped them so you may well be OK with 2) there was one on each caliper each side of the spacer, ie you'd need 4 to do a vehicle set.

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2 minutes ago, cackshifter said:

Glad to hear it worked - but - I thought (I have never stripped them so you may well be OK with 2) there was one on each caliper each side of the spacer, ie you'd need 4 to do a vehicle set.

By the look of it, they run all the way through the spacer and stick out each side, so only two per calliper, - if they only sat each side, needing four, they’d use the standard seals.

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30 minutes ago, cackshifter said:

Glad to hear it worked - but - I thought (I have never stripped them so you may well be OK with 2) there was one on each caliper each side of the spacer, ie you'd need 4 to do a vehicle set.

Nope, not on vented calipers the rubber tube goes through the spacer with a metal tube in centre, I'll do a few build up photo's when all the parts are here.

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The seal in these photos is split &, it's mate in other spacer is in 2 parts, so not much use anymore. 

 

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I thought there were two gallery seals per caliper - top and bottom?

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Good, it would have been mighty annoying to have only half what you need. They look in a bit of a state, they look like they should be replaced when the piston seals are replaced. I presume they are relatively old, but quite surprising as you aren't supposed to split the caliper. Good job you did.

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this caliper was leaking from on of the lower inboard piston seal& found a score mark on piston, [new stainless pistons & seals fitted back in Feb] also saw some fluid staining on the upper face of caliper body at the spacer to body joint.  Just waiting for these 2 gallery seals & a set of pistons/seals to arrive. 

 

on non vented calipers there is a square section O ring seal at each fluid gallery, so just 2 per caliper. & these tubular seals on vented calipers. Some other calipers on NON LR vehicles may have 4  O ring seals per caliper [2 each side of the spacer block] which is what I thought my calipers had. but once spilt it wasn't the case, I did by 4 of 17H8764L seals, but not required for my front vented calipers but might be useful if I have to split a rear caliper.

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1 hour ago, western said:

I did by 4 of 17H8764L seals, but not required for my front vented calipers but might be useful if I have to split a rear caliper.

i don't think they will fit the rear caliper , as far as i remember they are a different size to the front calipers !

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No big loss if they don't fit, not planning on splitting the rear calipers any time soon. 

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I have had these seals swell up on pattern calipers before, they blocked up the gallery completely leading to the brakes only operating on one side of the caliper.

 

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to keep all the repair seals in the same topic , the rear solid calipers seem to use RTC1137.

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That's the ones, I could only find them listed in the RRC parts info. 

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Just to confirm,

 

Western is on the money. Front Defender vented rotor calipers require gallery seal 3851-739. They have an inner steel tube to support the seal, this does NOT come with the seals. Re use from your calipers. 

 

I bought mine from Shop4autoparts when i rebuilt them in 2013. Never had a issue with many kms put on them. 

 

BTW when I went to a local LR dealer (here in Australia) they couldnt even find the part number.

 

 

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