fisha Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 OK. I got my RR. It leaned down to the drivers side. I fitted a complete new set of shocks and springs ( HD's from Paddocks ) . . . . it still leaned to the drivers side without anything in it. I have swapped the front springs from side to side . . . it still leans. I'm about to swap the rear . . but i suspect its not going to make much difference. There is about a 1" difference of the arch to tyre length between the driver and passenger sides. any good ideas / thoughts welcome on how to address it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Cut two one inch thick blocks of wood. Park drivers side wheels on them. Sorted Okay, I'm leaving... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Or fit air suspension, which will automagically level itself.* *When it's not busy automagically raising, lowering or generally capering around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Or fit air suspension, which will automagically level itself. I was going to suggest that too, but EAS does seem to be a bit unpopular. Don't know why.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisha Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 EAS is not that hard if you just do a pressure based system, and its in the back of my mind to start collecting the bits . . . it would solve any issue of leaning or loading. but until then, its going to annoy me a lot, so i had better figure out a spacer of some sort. if the rear swap turns out to still lean, then any ideas on what is so heavy on the drivers side to cause it? ( apart from my **** in the seat) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Surely a pressure based EAS system would have the same tendency to lean as a coiler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisha Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 it shouldn't really. you pump up each spring till it reaches the required height and maintain that pressure ( which is what the RR effectively does - except it constantly measures the height ) ignoring the compressor and valve setup( cause you would use a RR setup ) , you can easily get: in line pressure sensors for each air bag ( ~$30 each ) a display to show the 4 readings at once ( ~£200 ) then all you need to do is have 4 switches ( 1 per corner ) which can either raise or lower the pressure in each bag by controlling the right valves in the valve block So you load up your car, inflate the bags till you get the right gap between the wheels and arch, and then record each corners value and then manually adjust if one starts to change ( which it shouldn't really if the system is not leaking ) if thats not enough, then you can buy a more advanced system which will allow you to program in 3 height settings ( by the same process as above ) and then the system will automatically maintain the programmed pressure to keep what you've programmed in.... ( ~$800 ) or for the same price . . . yes, the same price ( $800 ) . . . you can get a system which reads the actual suspension height by means of 4 sensors with arms on them. You program in the height you want, and the system will add or remove air in the bags so that the height is maintained . . . .regardless of the weight in the vehicle, or the pressure in the airbags. doesn't that setup sound familiar to a certain RR setup? more investigation needed me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Donald, You could consider adding a couple of the Disco II spring isolators at the top of the springs. They add about 1/2".... If you need some air susp parts, my LSE stil l has all of the bits on it except the bladders. OME Springs.... Luverley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Hi Donald I had the same problem with the hybrid, did all of the same swapping etc nothing cured it. Did the same thing as FatBoy suggested and used RR rubber spring isolators,but put them on top and bottom of springs to give about an 1" lift. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisha Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 its too early to go down the route of air suspension, but it brews in the back of my mind as a 'do-able' thing which would give a good, customisable suspension setup to rival the likes of the P38 system ( which I quite like ) as for the levels on the RR. It struck me that I dont have a spare wheel in the rear passenger corner. So i threw in a couple of Jewson's bags of sand ( that were lying on the driveway) into the little dipped section. Its levelled off a little, and it sits noticably more level when moving along. I might throw a third in and see if that sorts it out. cant argue with a bodge like that eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Don, Did you put a bag on the bonnet to sort the front out???? Guess it will be easy to spot you on the road, no need for a Forum sticker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisha Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 no need for a forum sticker. mine is fairly obvious from the front.... black RR with no bonnet decal stainless steel spotlight bar with shiny lightforce spotlights and tyres that stick out a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bush65 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 The springs on the RH side need to be about 25mm (1") longer than those on the LH side. Or fit spacers on the RH side for the same effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall_CSK Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Donald. As you know I looked at this some time ago but didn't go any further as I was moving the project goalposts too often. I drove the Yorkshire defender with the basic set up and was very inpressed. I have since found quite a few US sites that supply kits, where did you get that info & pictures? My intention was to place a fixed small "bullseye" spirit level somewhere unobtrusive near the physical axle cross centre with the Rangie sitting on the bump stops to zero it to use as a reference, this may also be of some use for the coil problem, it's all too easy to bend a wing or spoiler and then things look off when they are really not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisha Posted August 15, 2005 Author Share Posted August 15, 2005 Images and prices from dakota digital..... www.dakotadigital.com they do some interesting gauges too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall_CSK Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Thanks Fisha, some very cool gear, could even make a RRC dash look like the USS Enterprise. Don't know how I missed that site, 5 pages down in Google past all the holiday adds as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Green Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Oh if only I had the money! ~wanders off muttering~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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