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200TDI into LWB SIII 109 - fit or sh#t?


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36 minutes ago, Nonimouse said:

Yes, but The Commons House Commitee on Classic cars did prove that the industry is worth 5.5 billion year and that was in 2015

Indeed, and all the posh nobs / Tory donors aren't going to take kindly to the government trying to scrap half their collection on environmental grounds... they can all afford a posh new EV/Hybrid to commute in no problem but their barn full of (increasingly valuable) classics is not a viable target for all sorts of reasons.

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I don’t think there is much risk of ICE vehicles being forcibly scrapped.  I do see them as being made uneconomical to run as a main form of personal transport through taxation.  That way, the hobnobs bet yo keep their toys, the treasury gets its revenue and the environmental campaigners get their victory.  It’s just the public who suffer, either through punitive fuel charges or having to shell out for an unsubsidised EV.  But the public good is seldom a factor in these decisions.

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3 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said:

The classic scene I suspect will fall by the wayside as being not worth the bother

Quite, we are destined to become the steam enthusiasts of the future.

Classic cars are just about at their peak at the moment, all down hill from here, I reckon, once the batteries for EVs are sorted, for sure.

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21 minutes ago, Bowie69 said:

Quite, we are destined to become the steam enthusiasts of the future.

Classic cars are just about at their peak at the moment, all down hill from here, I reckon, once the batteries for EVs are sorted, for sure.

More the Peanut Oil Enthusiasts

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44 minutes ago, Bowie69 said:

Quite, we are destined to become the steam enthusiasts of the future.

Classic cars are just about at their peak at the moment, all down hill from here, I reckon, once the batteries for EVs are sorted, for sure.

I dunno, once batteries are "sorted" the classic scene gets very attractive as you can throw a 2nd hand EV motor and battery pack into almost anything with a lot less pain than an equivalent modern engine/drivetrain swap, and youv'e got a very usable reliable and cheap to run classic car that nobody can really object to.

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2 hours ago, Bowie69 said:

Possibly, but then they will be daily driver cars, and not classics any more....

I dunno, there's enough unoriginal classics out there where an EV conversion that can be charged up and rolled out for the odd weekend bimble with zero tinkering and low maintenance would be a very attractive proposition. EV conversion would make great sense for a lot of "weekend warrior" trucks / occasional laners / trailer queens etc.

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I think it’ll be possible to preserve the bulk of the classic character but just change the engine to electric.  Fit a motor of comparable torque and all that you should really notice is the quiet, the less frequent gear changes and the lack of refuelling.  Classics are great fun, but fiddling with carbs or distributors is not most people’s idea of a good weekend, even among the classic enthusiasts, so if affordable classic conversions become common, I think classic ownership could conceivably increase as the maintenance effort and running costs reduce.  Time will tell, but companies like London Electric Cars and Jaunt are already making SII/SIII conversions using Nissan Leaf and Netgear Hyper9 motors, with similar performance on paper to a Tdi (which equates to 2030% more in the real world, apparently), so apart from the battery capacity and cost, it’s already viable.

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We're rather wandered from the' fit or sh#t?' question, but I get round it thus...

Not really sure why electric is so 'on-trend'. I suppose it's a bit more Guardian-reader than my approach. Some of you have read my posts, so know how I do this. I've been filling-up and charging my vehicles via what's readily piped into our homes, and doing this for nearer 10 years. It's a helluva lot cheaper to do and run than some mincing electric conversion. The insistence for electric, when most of us have gas piped-in baffles me. First had my 'light-bulb-moment' when I saw this being done with my local ice-rink's Zamboni, and whilst most fork-lifts use LPG, the bigger fleets pump the same as me.

Still, takes all sorts. Maybe I'd grasp why it must be electric when I get round to de-platforming Germaine Greer, campaigning against 70s TV sitcoms, and have my gender-reassignment surgery sorted. Until then...

 

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