Arnie91 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Hey everyone, I've run into an issue replacing the steering wheel. I'm not sure how this boss is supposed to come off. Any tips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Well I wouldn't be an expert but it's probably just tight on the splines, as it looks like the outer holes are threaded I would just make a simple puller, bar, big centre bolt and small holes to fix to the hub, if you haven't got any welding or threading equipment probably get away with a nut under the bar depending on clearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Put the nut back on a few turns, then whack the boss from behind with a hammer, or put the wheel back on and give it a good yanking about. It is just tight on the splines, nothing else holding it in place. You put the nut on so you don't smack yourself in the face with the wheel/boss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Often, putting the nut back on a couple of turns and then (in your case) re-fitting the wheel so you can give it a good pull & wiggle will do the trick. Or just a simple bar with a few holes in to create a puller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie91 Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 Thanks for the suggestions. There was no nut on actually, the old wheel was attached via those small hex screws and a center cap covering this threaded bolt. Old owner says to use a spider type puller, so ill look into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 No nut? Did you realise the previous owner had a death wish? Quick release steering wheel, just when you aren't expecting it.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romahomepete Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I think perhaps you should also check other jobs that he might have done. Such scant regard for safety is scary. Peter 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Very scary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 No nut As above I've be checking over anything else they did!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie91 Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 My bad, there was a nut. I just took it off so quick that I forgot about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie91 Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 This wheel is waiting to go on, but i realised I might need a hub, not just the optimil boss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Bowie69 said: No nut? Did you realise the previous owner had a death wish? Quick release steering wheel, just when you aren't expecting it.... I used to know someone that basically did this. His car was stolen and recovered - this was early nineties and an old car, so it didn't have much security. He hit on the idea of taking the steering wheel off at night and taking it into the house. Except he got careless and didn't tighten it up properly, and one day the inevitable happened. He somehow avoided crashing and stopped messing with the wheel after that. Although the same guy also used to take vehicles out of gear when going downhill "to save fuel". He'd once let a heavily loaded transit minibus run away on an autobahn in Germany, to the point he didn't dare touch the brakes and had to just let it roll and hope for the best - top speed achieved is unknown as it was well off the top of the transit's speedo, but well north of 100mph. In a 1970's minibus... He was still doing it when I knew him. No idea if he's still alive... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, geoffbeaumont said: Although the same guy also used to take vehicles out of gear when going downhill "to save fuel". Fun fact - doing that almost certainly uses more fuel, especially in anything with an ECU. During engine braking the ECU knows it doesn't need to put any fuel in at all and shuts off the injectors, whereas to keep the engine idling in neutral requires fuel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, FridgeFreezer said: Fun fact - doing that almost certainly uses more fuel, especially in anything with an ECU. During engine braking the ECU knows it doesn't need to put any fuel in at all and shuts off the injectors, whereas to keep the engine idling in neutral requires fuel. I've often wondered about this. Does that mean that technically the engine isn't running as there's no power stroke but rather just turning over as a result of the connected drivetrain being driven by the wheels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 17 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: Fun fact - doing that almost certainly uses more fuel, especially in anything with an ECU. During engine braking the ECU knows it doesn't need to put any fuel in at all and shuts off the injectors, whereas to keep the engine idling in neutral requires fuel. All the vehicles he had been/was driving would have been carb fueled, so it possible did save a tiny amount of fuel. Definitely not enough to be worth risking anyone's life for, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie91 Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Hey Guys, Im still having issues taking off the wheel. The puller kit I have doesnt match the bolt on the wheel, also, theres no holes or room for two additional bolts to form some kind of lock to push the wheel off I bought this kit https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01N9B0KJE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Any tips? I really need to get a wheel on before some work booked in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Can you just bolt that plate to the boss with the bolts that the steering wheel was attached with? Then use the big bolt in the middle to push against the shaft. Alternatively a regular pulley puller with two or three arms would probably be easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie91 Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 3 hours ago, elbekko said: Can you just bolt that plate to the boss with the bolts that the steering wheel was attached with? Then use the big bolt in the middle to push against the shaft. Alternatively a regular pulley puller with two or three arms would probably be easier. The hex screws in the boss are so small i double I could get a serious piece of metal to do the job, ill grab some of those arm puller things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballcock Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I've never yet failed to shift one by running the nut to the end of the thread, putting my knees behind it to pressure it towards me then hitting the nut with a lump hammer and drift. worse case was having to use a release agent into the splines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie91 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/9/2020 at 7:20 AM, elbekko said: Can you just bolt that plate to the boss with the bolts that the steering wheel was attached with? Then use the big bolt in the middle to push against the shaft. Alternatively a regular pulley puller with two or three arms would probably be easier. I did get the old bos off with the 3 arm puller, it popped off nicely. Now I have an issue with Optimil's quick release steering boss. The two locking pins are not setting into the base and hence the wheel can just be pulled off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Have you tried rotating it 180 degrees? The quick release wheel on one of my cars only latches one way so that the wheel is always the correct orientation for straight ahead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballcock Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Arnie91 said: I did get the old bos off with the 3 arm puller, it popped off nicely. Now I have an issue with Optimil's quick release steering boss. The two locking pins are not setting into the base and hence the wheel can just be pulled off... You have some thing stopping the faces mating, screws are too thick or a plate. The Optimil boss is a great bit of kit especially with the anti-theft unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I agree with L19MUD, if it went on either way you'd end up with it on upside down when straight ahead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballcock Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, landroversforever said: I agree with L19MUD, if it went on either way you'd end up with it on upside down when straight ahead. They have three pins to locate it to the boss so it will only go on one way. The locking tabs are opposite each other but they will only locate the tabs if the two sections can fit flat together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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