David Sparkes Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Someone I don't know, but whose location is 'Northampton' has just posted today in the Forum of the Series 2 Club. Just had the New Defender delivered and I 'ucked' up !!! I failed to tick the 'middle console' box when ordering and now have a completely empty space in the middle !!! I have just spoken to Land Rover and they have no retrofit - i.e. it can only be fitted on the production line..... Crazy. So to get round the problem I'm looking to find a company to build a bespoke middle console. Any suggestions on who to approach ? Does anyone here feel enough sympathy to offer helpful advice? I'm not familiar with what a 'Middle Console' comprises. If I was to guess it would be that 'No Middle Console' means more than just a single item missing, but that adjoining panels or mouldings are changed to compensate for the absence. The experience also serves as an alert to others who are considering specifying an order fot a Defender 2020; Double and Triple check the options you have selected, or left un-selected. Regards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 If you can’t add something as simple as that, then what chance for other modifications? The more I hear, the even more I see it as a Chelsea Tractor. If it can’t be personalised or adapted, it’ll not find much favour with less affluent overlanders or off readers as a second hand vehicle. Depreciation is going to be terrible once this new model bubble has burst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 The centre console is joined to the dash at the front and so I’m not sure it can easily be added for the reasons you suggest. It also forms part of the second row heat/air system and on some models the cubby fridge etc. I will be adding roof rails, front skid plate and rear recovery points to mine in time. All fairly straightforward to fit DIY so I’m not buying into the “can’t be adapted” nonsense. They can all be fitted at time of purchase by the dealer too but then you’re paying for them to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I'd guess there's an element of not wanting the dealer pulling the interior apart and damaging things/leaving it with squeaks and rattles that then cause warranty claims. Doesn't necessarily mean you couldn't retrofit the console if you wanted to (although obviously this guy would be in for a long wait before he can get hold of one if land rover don't sell them separately). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 What sort of console do they want and how much they want to spend ? halfords do cup holders and I’m sure retropower type company could whip something up for a good chunk of cash. I’m not sure any cars really do retro fits. Do you have any examples of cars in last 10 years that do big retro fit items ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 I've done some web research myself, to see if I could establish the different options. It appears that for a 110 you can have an empty space that allows a walk through into the second row area, (probably what he has); A centre seat, A centre console with or without a Refrigerator. The picture is culled from a publicity video. The empty 'walk through' space doesn't video very well, all that is shown is the upper halves of the backrests with a space between them Following my comments the guy has revealed it's a 110, bu.t he doesn't say what facilities he wants instead of the walk through space. Responses on the S2C forum have mentioned Mud Stuff and 'Have a look at Powerfull UK....he's all over the new defender on YouTube'. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Here is the “walk through” - fancy way of saying no console. It’s only a few inches tall to form the cup holders, similar to the ‘cubby tray’ offers on later models of the old Defender. The console appears to be standard on all except the base model, where it is a £200 option. Likewise the digital dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Found a better pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Have seen 1 vehicle at the dealers with the 'walk through'. Although I'm not sure it really is a bit I'd want to step on, or if there is even room to do so. I suspect the cubby box could be retro fitted, but my hunch would be you'd struggle to get hold of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 You could probably climb through, but I’m not sure why you’d want to given that they’ve seen fit to provide you with doors through which to access the rear seating or load area. Good for letting the dogs through though I bet! I can’t see the post on the S2C forum as I’m not registered but looking at what is in place when the console isn’t fitted I reckon one could make up a plywood console with a profile on the bottom that fitted snugly into the cup holders and storage trays to locate it. Suitably trimmed it would probably do the job quite nicely, and would be able to be built to suit the individual needs of the owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Does the 'walk through' bit have more use in the 90 or are the rear seats far enough apart to be able to climb in from the back door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I think I saw a video showing access to the rear seats via the front door, like the original RR Classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 That would make most sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender Offroad Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 9/22/2020 at 6:25 PM, David Sparkes said: Someone I don't know, but whose location is 'Northampton' has just posted today in the Forum of the Series 2 Club. Just had the New Defender delivered and I 'ucked' up !!! I failed to tick the 'middle console' box when ordering and now have a completely empty space in the middle !!! I have just spoken to Land Rover and they have no retrofit - i.e. it can only be fitted on the production line..... Crazy. So to get round the problem I'm looking to find a company to build a bespoke middle console. Any suggestions on who to approach ? Does anyone here feel enough sympathy to offer helpful advice? I'm not familiar with what a 'Middle Console' comprises. If I was to guess it would be that 'No Middle Console' means more than just a single item missing, but that adjoining panels or mouldings are changed to compensate for the absence. The experience also serves as an alert to others who are considering specifying an order fot a Defender 2020; Double and Triple check the options you have selected, or left un-selected. Regards Hi David try a company called "Department of Interior" They are in Australia. They make all sorts of bits and pieces for 4X4 including centre consoles http://www.consoles.com.au/ Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0810 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Hey, I am in kinda similar situation. Bought me a new defender, missing the middle console. Anyone knows of scrap yards UK or europe to sell this as used parts? Thanks for suggestions! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennybulmer Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 10/26/2021 at 9:15 PM, Defender Offroad said: Hi David try a company called "Department of Interior" They are in Australia. They make all sorts of bits and pieces for 4X4 including centre consoles http://www.consoles.com.au/ Hope this helps i ticked to get the centre arm console and they have not fitted it im gutted the sales person won't answer my calls they say i haven’t paid for it so basically tough !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 If you ordered the console it should show on your order confirmation. If so, go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo barron Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I have done the same thing David, did you manage to find a company that fits the centre console ? Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Leo barron said: I have done the same thing David, did you manage to find a company that fits the centre console ? Thanks Assuming that, because I started the thread, the 'David' is me, I have to point out that I don't have the problem, I was merely relaying the problem that a stranger had posted on the forum of the Series 2 club, as I thought this forum was more likely to produce a sensible result. There has been no feedback to the post on the Series 2 forum, so I think you need to read the intermediate answers and suggestions in this thread, follow those links, but also try wider searches in the wider LR community. I suggest you don't lose sight of the fact that an answer written 6 months ago may have been overtaken by events, especially as it becomes clearer that the market for an after-market centre console grows bigger. Don't expect something that looks like the original LR design, new designers always think they can improve on any original design. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 These parts are now coming up second hand as new Defenders get broken for parts after being written off. There was a complete centre console on Ebay last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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